Dwarkesh Patel

The Bolshevik Revolution was also change.

And if you were around in Russia in the 1900s and you're like, look, things aren't growing well.

The czar is kind of messing things up.

We need change.

I'd want to know what kind of change you wanted before signing on the dotted line, right?

And then similar with AI, where I'd want to understand, and to the extent it's possible to change the trajectory, to change the trajectory of AI such that the change is positive for humans.

Yeah, maybe a good analogy here would be, okay, so suppose you're raising your own children.

It might not be appropriate to have extremely tight goals for their own life or also have some sense of like, I want my children to go out there in the world and have this specific impact.

My son's going to become president and my daughter's going to become CEO of Intel and together they're going to have this effect on the world.

But people do have the sense that I think this is appropriate of saying, I'm going to give them good, robust values such that if and when they do end up in positions of power, they do reasonable pro-social things.

And I think maybe a similar attitude towards AI makes sense, not in the sense of we can predict everything that they will do, where we have this plan about what the world should look like in 100 years.

But it's quite important to give them...

robust and steerable and pro-social values pro-social values maybe that's the wrong word are there universal values that we can all agree on

I don't think so, but that doesn't prevent us from giving our kids a good education, right?

Like we have some sense of we want our children to be a certain way.

Yeah.

And maybe process is the wrong word.

Actually, high integrity is maybe a better word.

Where if there's a request or if there's a goal that seems harmful, they will refuse to engage in it.

Or they'll be honest.