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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

You just need really talented people.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And if you just have billions of extra people who are inventing stuff, integrating themselves, making companies' bottoms start to finish, that feels qualitatively different from just like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

A single technology.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

It's sort of like just asking if you get 10 billion extra people on the planet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I guess you have a machine which is spitting out more things like that at potentially a faster pace.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And so we historically have examples of the growth regime changing where, like, you went from, you know, 0.2% growth to 2% growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

So it seems very plausible to me that, like, a machine which is then spitting out the next self-driving car and the next internet and whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I think what often ends up being misleading in these conversations is people, I don't like to use the word intelligence in this context, because intelligence implies you think like, oh, a super intelligence will be sitting, there'll be a single super intelligence sitting in a server and it'll like divine how to come up with new technologies and inventions that causes this explosion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And that's not what I'm imagining when I'm imagining 20% growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

I'm imagining that there's billions of, you know, basically like very smart human-like minds potentially, or that's all that's required.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

But the fact that there's hundreds of millions of them, billions of them, each individually growing,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

making new products, figuring out how to integrate themselves into the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

Just the way if like a highly experienced smart immigrant came to the country, you wouldn't need to like figure out how we integrate them in the economy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

They figure it out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

They could start a company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

They could like make inventions, you know, or like just increase productivity in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

And we have examples even in the current regime of places that have had 10, 20% economic growth.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

You know, if you just have a lot of people and less capital in comparison to the people, you know,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy — AGI is still a decade away

You can have Hong Kong or Shenzhen or whatever just had decades of 10% plus growth.