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Dwarkesh Patel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And it makes a world that in turn has giant wars, which he would not like, and a crisis, and Machiavelli's critique of the ancients, and then the new science and the new philosophy and eventually Galileo, none of which resembles what Petrarch imagined if he had specifically described the future he was trying to make.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

But then we get to the propagators of Bacon's scientific method, meaning Voltaire and Montesquieu, who are also big campaigners for inoculation against smallpox.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And the first major disease eradications start to begin under that immediate influence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And the science that gets us to the germ theory of disease, which gets us to modern hygiene, which gets us again to vaccines, which gets us to penicillin and the treatment for the Black Death.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Petrarch thought he would make a world which shared his values.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Instead, he made a world that doesn't share his values but that is capable of curing a disease he never imagined would be curable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And if you showed him this future, it would be scary.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

It would be weird to him because it does not embrace his values.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Our values are different.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He would be horrified by democracy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He believed that only a tiny elite has the capacity to rule.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He would really wrestle for a long time if we had time traveling Petrarch to wrap his head around democracy as a functional system.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He really thought in oligarchic terms.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

But he would see the wonders we've created and especially the fact that we can treat the Black Death.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And he would weep for joy seeing that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He did not create a world that went as he wanted, but he created a world that went well.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And we have many examples of that, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Trains and bicycles come in and we get feminism because it's easier for people, especially women, to move freely and independently.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

They can organize.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

They can mobilize.