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Dwarkesh Patel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
12579 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Robotaxi, which was just deployed, actually still has a person inside it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And we could be in a similar situation where

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

If you automate 99% of a job, that last 1% the human has to do is incredibly valuable because it's bottlenecking everything else.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And if it was the case with radiologists where the person sitting in the front of the Uber or the front of the Waymo has to be specially trained for years in order to be able to provide the last 1%, their wages should go up tremendously because they're the one thing bottlenecking wide deployment.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So radiologists, I think their wages have gone up for similar reasons.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

If you're the last bottleneck, you're like...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And you're not fungible, which, like, you know, a Waymo driver might be fungible with other things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

So you might see this thing where, like, your wages go, like, whoop, and then until you get to 90%, and then, like, just like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And then the last 1% is gone.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And I wonder if we're seeing similar things with radiology or salaries of call center workers or anything like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

I think there's been evidence that that's already been happening generally in companies that have been adopting AI, which I think is quite surprising.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And I also find what was really surprising, okay, AGI, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

Like a thing which would do everything and, okay, we'll take out physical work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

It's a thing which should be able to do all knowledge work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And what you would have naively anticipated that the way this regression would happen is like you would take a little task that โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

consultant is doing, you take that out of the bucket.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

You take a little task that an accountant is doing, you take that out of the bucket.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

And then you're just doing this across all knowledge work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

But instead, if we do believe we're on the path of AGI with the current paradigm, the progression is very much not like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Andrej Karpathy โ€” AGI is still a decade away

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