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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

LabelBox helps you train models not just to get the right answer, but to think the right way.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

They've operationalized these reasoning behaviors into rubrics, giving you the ability to evaluate every important dimension of a model's output.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

These rubrics go beyond simple correctness.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Did the model reach for the right tools?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Did it check its own work and explore alternative paths?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

How clear was its response?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

These skills are useful across domains, math, physics, finance, psychology, and more.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

And they're becoming increasingly important as models take on harder, open-ended problems, some of which have multiple solutions and some of which we don't even know the solutions to.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Labelbox can get you rubrics tailored to your domain, helping you systematically measure and shape how your models think.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Learn more at labelbox.com.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

One big question I have is, how plausible is it that if we just keep training AIs to get better and better at solving problems in lean, that they will continue to solve more and more impressive problems, and then we will, in retrospect, be surprised at how little insight

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

be got from some lean solution to proving the rebound hypothesis or something?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Or do you think it is a necessary condition also in the rebound hypothesis, even by an AI that is like totally doing it in lean that the constructions which are made, the definitions which are created, even in the lean program,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

have to advance our understanding of mathematics?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Or do you think it could just be assembly code gobble-de-gook?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

the eye figures it out and latent in the lean is some brand new construction, which, you know, if you realize the significance would be,

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

we would be able to apply it in all these different situations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

How would we even recognize it, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Like if you just, again, a very naive question, but if you come up with the equivalent of like, Descartes comes up with this idea, oh, you can have this coordinate system where you can unify algebra and geometry, but in lean code, it would just look like R to R and it wouldn't look that significant or something.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Terence Tao โ€“ Kepler, Newton, and the true nature of mathematical discovery

Or similarly,