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Dwarkesh

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So now we have these different forks of companies.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

We have you, we have thinking machines, there's a bunch of other labs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Yes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And maybe one of them figures out the correct approach.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But then the release of their product makes it clear to other people how to do this thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And how are the...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

By default, you would expect the model company that has that model to be getting all these gains because they have the model that is learning how to do all... has the skills and knowledge that it's building up in the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

What is the reason to think that the benefits of that would be widely distributed and not just end up at whatever model company gets this continuous learning loop going first?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And that's the way you wanna go there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Is this contradicted by what human-like learning implies?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Is that like it can learn?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

high point where someone else would say look like i don't want to start learning what you've learned that would require many different companies to begin at the human like continual learning agent at the same time so that they can start their different research in different branches but if one company you know gets that agent first or gets that learner first

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

It does then seem like, well, if you just think about every single job in the economy, you just have instance learning.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Each one seems tractable for a company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

A lot of people's models of recursive self-improvement literally explicitly state we will have a million Ilias in a server that are coming up with different ideas, and this will lead to a superintelligence emerging very fast.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Do you have some intuition about how parallelizable the thing you are doing is?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

What are the gains from making copies of Ilya?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

I don't know.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

I think...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

But people who think differently, that's what you want.