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Dwarkesh

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

Our theory is that they are, to some degree consciously, to some degree accidentally, working towards this intelligence explosion.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

where the AIs themselves can start taking over some of the AI research, move faster.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So 2025, slightly better coding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

2026, slightly better agents, slightly better coding.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And then we focus on, and we name the scenario after 2027, because that is when this starts to pay off.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The intelligence explosion gets into full swing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The agents become good enough to help with, at the beginning, not really do, but help with some of the AI research.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So we introduced this idea called the R&D progress multiplier.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So how many months of progress without the AIs do you get in one month of progress with all of these new AIs helping with the intelligence explosion?

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So 2027...

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

We start with, I can't remember if it's literally start with or by March or something, a five times multiplier for algorithmic progress.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

party and it worked yeah our scenario focuses on coding in particular because we think coding is what starts the intelligence explosion so we are less interested in questions of like how do you mop up the last few things that are uniquely human compared to when can you start coding in a way that helps the human AI researchers speed up their AI research and then if you've helped them speed up the AI research enough is that enough to with some ridiculous speed multiplier 10 times 100 times mop up all of these other things

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm a little confused to hear you say that because when I have seen people predicting AI milestones like Katya Grace's expert surveys, they have almost always been too pessimistic from a point of view of how fast AI will advance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

So, like, I think the 2022 survey โ€“

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I mean, they actually said that things that had already happened would take like 10 years to happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

The survey, it might have been 2023.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

It was like six months before GPT-3, GPT-4 came out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

And there were things that GPT-3 or 4 or whichever one of them it was did that it did in six months.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

They were still predicting like five or 10 years from.

Dwarkesh Podcast
2027 Intelligence Explosion: Month-by-Month Model โ€” Scott Alexander & Daniel Kokotajlo

I'm sure Daniel is going to have a more detailed answer, but I absolutely reject the premise that everybody has always been too optimistic.