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Dylan Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Is it better?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Is it not?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Is it better or not?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Kind of a thing like that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

I remember, like, someone told me this when I was speaking.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Like, how did America lose the ability to do this sort of thing, like etch and hydrofluoric and acid, all of that?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

I told them, likeβ€”he told me, basically, it was like, it's very apprentice, master-apprentice.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Like, you know in Star Wars, Sith, there's only one, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Master-apprentice, master-apprentice.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

It used to be that there is a master, there's an apprentice, and they pass on this secret knowledge.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

This guy knows nothing but etch, nothing but etch.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Over time, the apprentices stopped coming.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

And then in the end, the apprentices moved to Taiwan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

And that's the same way it's still run.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Like you have the NTU and NTHU, Tsinghua University, National Tsinghua University.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

There's a bunch of masters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

They teach apprentices and they just pass this secret knowledge down.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Well, you can argue that like the more you centralize it, the more you start building this monstrous thing within the industry, you start getting attention to it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

And then suddenly, you know, lo and behold, you have a little bit of a little worm in there suddenly where you're doing your big training run.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Dylan Patel & Jon (Asianometry) – How the Semiconductor Industry Actually Works

Oh, there's GPU.