E.J. Dionne Jr.
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And I also think it's simply the fact that the interests of Israel and the interests of the United States do not totally coincide in this war.
And the Times had a really interesting story where there's also a difference, it appears, between Israel and the Saudis, where the Saudis really want the war to go on until there is regime change.
Israel could probably live with – easier with a much weakened Iran.
And so I think you're going to see another fight in that area.
And let's assume that.
And I think that creates a real problem for Israel because I think there are a lot of people in the United States who,
You know, majority opinion is against this war.
Our friend Bill Galston the other day cited the polling average, 39 percent support for this war.
That's unheard of at this point.
So most Americans want this to end.
And so to the extent that the Saudis or the Israelis are pressuring the United States, that's a real problem for both countries, I think, in the long run.
I think that was a very small piece of the left and that people allied with that grew as the war continued, as the destruction in Gaza continued, and Israel didn't end the war much earlier than they did.
I'm not sure how this goes well sitting here on this day by the end.
So I'm very curious how, if Americans will look back and say this was a good idea.
But I think you're already seeing even splits within countries.
The pro-Israel camp.
There is a real rebellion against AIPAC within the Democratic Party among very mainstream Democrats, particularly after their intervention against Tom Malinowski, who was historically very pro-Israel, but said, no, I will not give a blank check.
And they intervened.
Their candidate failed.
And they ended up electing someone who was far more anti-Israel.