Eamon Dillon

It has meant, though, that Mr. Mulready has been kind of

coming to court twice as much instead of you know half the amount if they were held together and neither of them began as a trial they both pleaded guilty before a trial began did they yeah they both they both pleaded guilty to yeah I suppose just down to assisting an offender really is the kind of the basic kind of allegation against them and they can face up to 10 years for that so we know that similar charges Paul Crosby got the maximum he got 10

Jared Cruz got seven and Jed McKenna whose house was used and again obviously one of these people like doing what he was told he got four years like he attempted to clean up the scene the guard he went in very shortly after the killing I think it was within two days or a day after you know the floor there was pieces of flooring had gone missing there was paint you know fresh paint on the walls and stuff like that so

So everybody's kind of got a... I suppose they've got a tariff behind bars based on their role, but also, I think, as well, their background as well.

I mean, I suppose someone like Grandbride, you know, he's a serial offender in that sense.

I mean, probably nothing like this in that sense, like, you know, being involved in something as gruesome as that, but...

you know, they'll take into account, I suppose, what they said about, you know, dealing with this dangerous and volatile character.

It wasn't a... Yeah, it looks like it.

I mean, they... I mean...

like it was described as you know as being a huge operation and we do know it was like I mean there was a huge amount of resources put into it like when you when you know that you know all the phone analysis that goes on and the amount of time that takes and the amount of expertise it takes and even the paperwork that comes with it in terms of getting all the search and various warrants correct like it's not it's not a simple thing to do I mean obviously the guards are well versed at it now because it's we've seen it in so many different cases I mean the Ruth Lawrence trial was

There's an incredible amount.

And they really are able to kind of pinpoint when people are moving, when they're talking to each other.

And once they get the phones, you know, they can find out, you know, if there's texts are available, if it's not an encrypted phone or things haven't been erased, they can find out quite a lot very quickly.

And then all the CCTV, which they use to back it up.

And so by the time...

the likes of Carberry and Bride are arrested.

I mean, Carberry made a certain amount of admissions and was helpful enough and spoke about a few things in terms of, say, like the incident outside the gym and what that was about.

And he talked about different nicknames people had.

He was somewhat helpful.

Glenn Bright, on the other hand, when he was arrested and taken from prison and questioned by the guards, he put up his hoodie and refused to cooperate.