Eamon Dillon

And once they get the phones, you know, they can find out, you know, if there's texts are available, if it's not an encrypted phone or things haven't been erased, they can find out quite a lot very quickly.

And then all the CCTV, which they use to back it up.

And so by the time...

the likes of Carberry and Bride are arrested.

I mean, Carberry made a certain amount of admissions and was helpful enough and spoke about a few things in terms of, say, like the incident outside the gym and what that was about.

And he talked about different nicknames people had.

He was somewhat helpful.

Glenn Bright, on the other hand, when he was arrested and taken from prison and questioned by the guards, he put up his hoodie and refused to cooperate.

He was interviewed four times and didn't say anything.

But the point is, the guards already, the investigators already had all this information.

And, you know, it was really, this is what we've got, we have anything to say.

You know, it didn't matter that in Bright's case that he didn't have anything to say.

They were still able, they had enough that he pleaded guilty.

And does that go, when he pleads guilty,

No, it'll be, it'll go, no, it's in the mitigation, like if you enter an early plea, the judges have to take that into account.

I mean, they mentioned like it would have been a serious trial.

I mean, like we heard recently about the guys involved in the

one of the cocaine boats, the, not the Cool Explorer, the MV Royal.

Yeah.

Like, and again, the early plea mitigation was put out there and they were saying that this trial would have lasted, you know, a couple of months and there was 112 witnesses.