Ed Helms

What the hell?

I want to just kind of raise one one sort of final thought and get your take, which is the fog of war and in particular how the fog of war was was so present in this era.

in this tragic story, this is obviously a grand scale, but it's a rather poignant metaphor for an individual experience when we're in our own fog, whatever that fog is, anxiety, depression, grief, or rage, or whatever fog you might find yourself in, just as these soldiers wound up shooting at each other,

Isn't it fascinating how we can end up fighting ourselves in trying to reach our goals and sort of shooting ourselves in the foot when we're in that fog?

Yes.

Yeah, which is so hard because in those moments,

Our mental wiring just wants action.

It wants to solve that fog with some action.

And that's reassuring.

There's comfort in that.

That fog will lift.

Amen.

Kelly Corrigan, I feel like that's a perfect place to wrap this up.

I'm so grateful that you came on and you brought it like you brought you brought the Corrigan big time.

And I really appreciate it.

This is really fun.

Thanks for having me.

Of course.

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