Ed Husain

They're terrified of saying what you've just said, that this is suicidal.

because it would be seen as questioning the policies of their older bosses that brought them into this job, and now potentially appearing Islamophobic to their Muslim colleagues, and worse,

having to admit that the government has made mistakes and therefore do something about this problem, which is to start identifying the Muslim Brotherhood's influence on now almost 2 million plus Muslims, some of whom are Muslim Brotherhood ideologues, are now in the government, are now in the House of Lords, are in the House of Commons.

are in the British media space, and this cancer is spreading.

But the government, if it admits what you've just asked them, Francis, to admit, that this is a disastrous policy, it means, A, they're responsible, and B, they must do something about it.

Safer to say,

This is complicated.

That's where you deploy MI5 and you put greater resources in monitoring the terrorist or the physical violence threat.

And that would be their response.

We've allocated more resources.

We've put the prevent program into place.

And that's where the human element comes in.

But the bigger strategic piece is that you've intentionally fostered

and fed this beast, and now you've radicalized Muslim populations in at least 45 to 50 constituencies in northern parts of England.

And, you know, I tried to do this in my last book, Among the Mosques, warn what's going on inside these communities.

And the feedback was negative media campaigning, attacks from major Islamist organizations in the UK,

Labour MPs very reluctant to have this conversation.

And now what we're seeing is that the human response is, again, in the spirit of being free and not censored, the human response seems to be political parties that are breaking away from the Tory party reform and several others that are saying enough is enough.

which is a dangerous response because it means maybe on the left we will see what you call the red-green alliance, the far-left greens with the far-right Islamists coming together to combat what's going on on the right of the Tory party, which is not what you want in the country, but all of this

comes from that Egyptian moment in the 1920s.