Ed Husain

So I can't get into that head, I'm afraid, to be able to answer that question.

Yeah, that's a great question.

And if I may take the liberty of saying next time we meet, I should have a book out on this very subject.

Because my next book is focused on the life of the prophet and tackling these very, very important and consequential questions that you put forth.

so allow us to leave the the the details of tackling this head-on i'm not shying away from it because i think it's very very important and we've got to understand that in its time in its context and make our own decisions but i say this there's nothing that all of the the the scholarly references i gave you whether it's sheikh or sheikh muhammad bin zayed of the uae

or Shah Abdullah bin Zayed of the UAE, who's pioneered in recent years this debate in diplomatic and public intellectual circles, or indeed the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman.

Notice how they're all called Mohammed.

And I go by Ed, but that's short for Mohammed too.

So I like to think that all of us and most Muslims around the world

Our life and my defense of classical liberalism and pluralism is motivated entirely by the life of the Prophet Muhammad.

There's nothing I say or I believe or I do takes away from my allegiance to understanding him and his loyalty to understanding Moses, Jesus, and so on.

But again, as I say, we should discuss this in greater depth and greater detail once the next book comes out, which is focused on this crux.

I take issue with the term.

I think he was fighting defensive wars.

I think he took the Jesus approach for

10 years of his life in Mecca.

He was persecuted.

His followers were killed.

He was tortured.

His family members were expelled into Abyssinia and he didn't respond.