Ed Husain

And then he moved to Medina.

Again, he's not violent.

And then there are the tribes in Mecca and there were 14 major Jewish tribes of which two Jewish tribes turn against him, ally themselves with the pagans of Mecca.

And they mount an attack, an attempt to assassinate him, to kill him.

And by then, he'd survived 12 different assassination attempts.

So forgive me if I justify the fact that he then said, we're going to fight back.

you know, after years of not fighting back, we're not a passive people.

If we're attacked, we fight back.

And that was his response.

He said, we will fight back.

And when he fights back, he warns his people, don't poison a well, don't kill women, don't kill children, don't take down palm trees, fight those who fight you.

And that's a verse in the Quran, you know, , fight them wherever you find them attacking you, don't attack innocent.

So there are rules of engagement

So I just don't think calling him a warlord or Gad Saad's argument are actually fully reflective of the truth.

And for people like Gad Saad, I say that these are people who don't take their Judaism or their Shabbat seriously.

They have a problem with their Judaism.

And I think there's some projection going on there that Judaism, Zionism, Jewishness, Shabbat, it's all the same.

So we'll just apply this mangled, mixed up approach to other faiths and say,

they're just behaving like Moses and they're just wrong.

I disagree with that worldview and it's going to get complicated and we might have a very big disagreement on this issue, but I think we've got to discuss this.