Ed Ludlow

Well, the world order certainly has changed.

And I think it's an illusion to think it will come back to the days that I grew up.

So we have to adapt to the new way in which countries, I mean, we've got China, we've got the United States, we've still got Russia as a military power, we've got upcoming countries.

So we have to adapt as Europe.

And I think Europe has to get itself stronger economically, but also on the defense side within NATO.

But we have to work much more together and make sure that the European Union is an economic union and that Europe is really a defense force to reckon with.

And Prime Minister, your life is changing.

You're going to be leaving government.

How is the formation now of the new government?

Well, it's on track.

They expect to be inaugurated at the end of February.

But the negotiations are still going on.

And what are your plans?

Yeah, well, I'm officially already retired.

Congratulations to you.

Yeah, yeah.

In a few days I will be 96.

Did I say it correctly?

Yeah.

Oh, 69.