Ed Martin

I showed 50 lawyers and top people thinking about it.

How do you look at this?

And what you described was the working document that we put together, which is it describes exactly what happened.

The people in this country operated within the rules and the law and the Constitution, and they were brutalized by it.

And so the pardon attempts to start to change that.

And I think it's the opening.

I know because I'm involved in getting to the truth of 2020.

Right.

A couple of things.

One, there's a broad argument that the pardon can apply to state charges that I leave to others for fighting it out.

But there is in the history of the country, of course, you go back in time at the very beginning, the charges, a pardon operated against any crime against the United States at the period

early on, you were pardoning local charges too.

That's a different debate.

I don't think right now we win that in the courts, but I'll just say this.

If you charge somebody for forgery or obstruction of justice and the underlying crime that you're claiming is forgery or obstruction of justice, definitively the government says it wasn't a crime, there was no victims, there was no cost.

You take the wind out of the sails of the argument.

What are you doing?

And what becomes clear and should be clear

They're doing this for politics.

It's targeting people for politics and otherwise.