Chapter 1: What pardons did Trump grant to 2020 election electors?
Weeping pardons for several key allies who backed his effort to subvert the 2020 election results. That's according to the president's so-called clemency czar, Justice Department pardon attorney Ed Martin, who released a list on social media late last night that includes the names of 77 people who received pardons.
They include Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, John Eastman, Kenneth Cheesbrough, Boris Epstein, and Sidney Powell, among others. Now, Politico points out that the pardons are largely symbolic because none of those identified were charged with any federal crimes. Additionally, the document posted online is also undated, so it's not clear exactly when President Trump signed it.
The pardon language explicitly states it does not apply to Trump himself.
Chapter 2: Why are the recent pardons considered symbolic?
The White House and Justice Department did not immediately respond to requests for comments. So, Ken, there's a lot to sift through here. You know, we know that President Trump has stacked his administration with some of those previous 2020 election deniers, those who claim falsely that he won the election.
And symbolic or not, this is another symbol here that he's simply not going to play by the rules. And that these are people who he is yet another example of this administration where he has taken use the powers of government to punish his foes. And in this case, reward his friends, those who do his bidding.
Mark Wolf explains his decision to step down as a senior U.S. district judge in Massachusetts. He writes in part, quote, My reason is simple. I no longer can bear to be restrained by what judges can say publicly or do outside the courtroom. President Donald Trump is using the law for partisan purposes, targeting his adversaries while sparing his friends and donors from investigation, prosecution.
and possible punishment. This is contrary to everything that I have stood for in my more than 50 years in the Department of Justice and on the bench. The White House's assault on the rule of law is so deeply disturbing to me that I feel compelled to speak out. Silence for me is now intolerable.
say it's a bit more than symbolic, Jonathan, in the sense that some of these people were clearly considered unindicted co-conspirators by Jack Smith in the investigation of the false elector scheme that resulted in the indictment of Donald Trump. And they were certainly at risk of being charged federally. Now, of course, that was never going to happen during this administration.
And there's a statute of limitations problem. But often there are ways to get around statutes of limitations. And so Some of these people had some real risk of being charged criminally in the false elector scheme. If a Democrat or someone who's not like minded with Donald Trump becomes the next president and controls the Justice Department. So this is a big deal.
And it's just a continuation of of of what is happening within the Trump administration in terms of pardoning people who've committed barbaric, very serious offenses. In this case, haven't been charged with offenses, but are believed by many people to have engaged in misconduct. And just it's about the political whims of Donald Trump. It's about who he likes and who he wants to help.
And if you believe a certain way that was in his interest, you're liable for a pardon, whether it's the Jelaine Maxwell or or people who engaged in this false elector scheme. Now, the thing to remember is there are still There were state attorneys general investigations into various false elector schemes around the country. It's unclear exactly what's happening with those.
But these pardons, of course, would not apply to state charges.
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Chapter 3: What concerns arise from Trump's use of presidential pardons?
We've got the Marines. So look, this I became a U.S. partner attorney. I was planning on being U.S. attorney in in Washington, D.C. Right. I was enjoying that.
I had quite a run.
I had quite a run. I had quite a run.
I will say some of the story. The establishment was not just the progressive Democrats. The Republican establishment was absolutely shaking. They have a they have a guy in there.
Chapter 4: How did the Justice Department respond to Trump's actions?
It's a law and order guy.
Yeah. So, well, and it was really important work. And I loved it. And I had hoped to do it for the whole four years. The Lord has different plans. And when I spun around and the president said, we're going to withdraw your nomination, he said, but I want you to keep fighting. And I said, I'll do what you want, sir. And he said, I want you to be the U.S. pardon attorney.
And I thought, OK, like, because I care a lot about the pardons because what they did. And the anti-weaponization. Yeah, I was going to get to that. Right. So he says, pardon attorney. I thought, well, I care about that. I care about the J6ers, the FACE Act, the pro-lifers. That first week in office, I'll never forget, I'd never been in the Oval Office, okay?
So it's January 24th or 3rd, and I go in there because the president's signing a pardon for two cops, MPD cops that were sent to jail for being honest brokers and chasing a bad guy through the streets. And he looked at me, first time in the Oval Office, I'm nervous as can be, he looked at me and he said,
there's a good part these are good pardons right and i said yes sir and he said we're gonna do the right thing for the cops i said yes sir and he said did the mpd tell you they like it i said yeah they do sir and he's like great signed it i mean we had great work so the partner attorney i thought it's important but then he said i want you to run the weaponization committee and and the anti-weapon well anti-weaponization but the first thing is to to shine a light and i've said this before name and shame i mean look when bondy gave us the memo general bonnie the memo the first one is jack smith
First one to investigate is Jack Smith. We look at Jack Smith, and I'm in the middle of this still. What you see is Jack Smith was targeting who? The electors, the alternate electors across the country.
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Chapter 5: What implications do the pardons have for future prosecutions?
Jack Smith thought he was going to be one of the famous lawyers who tried what I call a maxi trial. In the 1990s in Sicily, they tried all the organized crime. Jack Smith thought he was that guy, except he was the guy running the conspiracy. He was the guy doing this stuff. So when we looked at it, the president said, pardon, attorney, and And I said, okay.
Hang on a second. Maxi trial, he wanted to put hundreds of people on trial at the same time.
Sorry, I got us distracted, but it's important because it plays into what happened. Jack Smith's vision was charge hundreds of people across the country, all the alternate electors, all the people that put their head up and said- All the lawyers that work on things. All the lawyers, charge a maxi trial.
And then when he's done- Navarro, Bannon, everybody around the president and the president of the United States. And the president. And he only lost, he only ran out of time because guys like Todd Blanch, my current boss, John Lauro, they fought it off and they fought this guy off and he stopped him.
So anyway, when the president says, I want you to do the weaponization and the partner attorney, I looked at it, I said, the partner attorney. And then Steve, you lived it, but I learned it.
You have a chance present and he loves this you have a chance to give real mercy and give people that were wronged a break So I get in and he says to me two things He said one is there's people that deserve a break that are in jail in prison Find him and help him get a break as it served in a long time and all but he said the second one was weaponized against us by Biden and Obama by the way and and just the government and we started looking at that and and this the electors across the country and
The pardon that came out today was pardoning these electors because they did what? They did the exact same thing that in 1960 the Democrats did in Hawaii. There were three Democrat alternate electors, and nobody said a word. It's exactly what you do when you operate the Constitution, not when you don't. And, Steve, here's the thing. You're Steve Bannon. Out in the country, in the states,
Frankly, more normal people, regular guys and gals put their hand up and said, I'll be an alternate elector to help. They were the county chair. They were a local judge. And Jack Smith and his team and Fannie Willis, they destroyed these people. And so you had people borrowing against college funds, redoing their mortgage, selling their house.
Going into their retirement.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of the Marine Corps' 250th anniversary?
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Okay, well, by the way, I was very concerned. Literally, we scooped Ed Martin up from the streets of the Capitol. You've got the Columbo jacket on.
Chapter 7: How are the events in Venezuela connected to U.S. foreign policy?
I thought you were doing Letitia James hunting for another house up here. She got one on Capitol Hill.
No, no, I just was out doing some business, Steve. I don't like to tell you why I was in the neighborhood. We'll just leave it at that.
That's the D-Web. You put out also something in addition. about the 2020. I mean, one of the things that we keep pressing is that we have to adjudicate 2020. It's absolutely, it's the railhead of so much of the problem in the country. And now you've seen the auto-penn, you know, the auto-penn pardons, the auto-penn executive orders, which I think are even worse.
Tell me, why did you put this out today at the same time?
Well, you know, two things. One is, you know, Kurt Olson. Kurt Olson. Kurt Olson was recently appointed by the president to work on election integrity. What people may not know, and it's not not a secret, is that inside DOJ, myself and a couple others have been working also on the same topic. So, you know, you see whether it's Fulton County has these ballots we're worried about.
Why are we not? Why do we have some U.S. marshals to go down?
Everybody thinks it's look. Yeah. Everybody thinks it's easier. It's a challenge. We've got to get them. And my bet is they're not there. I've always thought that they say they're there and that they're I think they're long ago shredded because of and destroyed. But that's just my own opinion. We'll see.
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Chapter 8: What challenges do the U.S. military face in current geopolitical conflicts?
But more importantly, there is a court that's a bombshell. Well, it would be.
Let me say let me say that's just me guessing as as important as you don't think they don't think you keep the evidence around that there would put them all in prison.
At this point, it's four and a half years later. They're fighting to keep them secret. The court ordered them being held. The clerk has them supposedly down the hall. They won't let us see them to review them? If they want to prove that the election was fine, show it to us. We have enough concerns. We've raised enough serious concerns.
So my thinking is if it's that important to them, who knows what happens. But we'll see. just me reacting to how much they fought. But so why, when the president, when we talked about the pardon of these alternate electors, at the heart of it was a desire, it seemed, the conduct of these electors, they were being shut down. They were being silenced. And why?
And the question was, what happened in the 2020 election? And so when we went back and looked at it, our goal was to pardon these electors. And when you pardon the alternate electors, you got to make the case and look closely at it. And what we saw was people, again, ordinary Americans, Steve, regular people, and their lawyers and others saying, let's use the system the way we're supposed to.
And what they were doing, they were targeted for that. So what we saw and what we're laying out is what happened that they targeted? Why did they target it? What were the steps that were taken? And I think it all becomes a question to answer what happened with 2020. And again, General Bondi has put us on his task. She said to us, keep pushing, keep figuring it out. And so we're doing that.
So, in other words, keep pushing because we have to adjudicate with transparency in the public the stealing of the 2020 election.
Anytime you see wholesale misconduct targeting American people, whether it's illegal or it's outside of the term limits or anything else, excuse me, the statute of limitations, you still have to take a look at it.
you don't get to say walk away when there's misconduct so we now have regular misconduct against american citizens when you see that you say let's go figure out what happened and we're going to get to the bottom of it i'm very confident it's happening faster than people can realize and and look i've told you before i get a lot of grief from the the tv people if you do something wrong and we can prosecute you we're going to we're going to find it and get you
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