Ed O'Brien

It's a step.

Yeah.

But it's that thing.

The truth sets you free.

And you, you, you, I've been saying, I'm not fully there, but I'm definitely on the journey.

Yeah.

I really don't care anymore because I cared so much before what people thought of me because I guess I wanted to be liked and loved.

Why does somebody want to be liked and loved?

Because they feel that there was a deficit of that.

There's a hole there.

It's the classic journey, right?

So once you...

Learn about once you go to that dark place and the healing process, as you said, is a process of self-love and going, I'm okay.

I'm okay.

You know, and then you feel it.

And then, of course, for me, my connection with spirit, for want of a better word, that's the thing that makes everything else possible.

I can handle anything in a way.

I don't care what people think of me now, you know, that feeling that I have.

And I, I think very much like Thoreau, you know, his writings and Walden that, that when I'm in nature, that's my, you know, when we're here and if you were to leave me here all day and I'm wandering around and I've got a cup of tea and I can make some tea, good tea and hit, hear the birds and see the, see the creatures.

And,