Ed O'Brien

You can say anything to me now and it's going to brush off me, whereas before I'd be rocked by it.

But it's that connection with spirit which is at the center now, which is anchored in there.

And that's the thing that I try to do on a daily basis to maintain that.

If I don't have that center, that's the thing that knocks me and I do start caring.

But that is the key thing.

And that was the thing that came to me in this dark night of the soul.

It's like, you know, people use that beautiful word grace.

And I can't explain it because I'm, it's quite hard to explain for those who, you know, I come from, like I always say, I come from Oxford, which is one of the most cerebral places on the planet.

They threw out spirits and God when they threw out religion.

And I understand the casting aside of religion because it's,

There are beautiful aspects of it, but there's also controlling people.

But that thing is so part of my life now and has been.

And I think I've been seeking it for a long time.

I've been meditating for 20 years.

I call myself the mongrel meditator.

I taught myself.

And for years, I just would turn up on the mat and just be quiet.

But now it feels different.

It's a different level.

And that's the thing.