Ed O'Brien

You know, the world tells us it's brutish and it's ugly and our system kind of encourages that as well.

But when you go through this other side and you go through these breakthroughs, it's learning more to let go and trusting.

And then you go, okay, I like being in this place of uncertainty.

I feel like right now I'm in a really big moment of uncertainty.

Yeah.

Exactly.

And, you know, the less I sort of tried to control it or move it, the more, the richer it got and the more, yeah, kind of, I felt the more magnificent it got because it didn't feel like me and my only job is...

My job is my intuition to being honest with that and going, this feels good or I'm not sure that's very good.

And that's really important because you're not like a rudderless ship.

You're like in the river, but you're just gently going, oh, that feels good.

And you can't force anything.

It's happening, but it needs you to be present.

and it needs you to be true to what you're feeling and that the truth that you know you can so that you know in creativity you can you can do those things where you can work on something all day but you've got to also have the guts to go

It's so interesting.

One of the things I feel like I'm a real novice to songwriting.

So I'm kind of speaking about it in a way that it's still kind of... The guy in Radiohead.

Well, but the songwriting aspect that comes...

how these songs come about that was the domain of tom you know tom would get to the and he would bring us the songs in rehearsal not in the early days and then the studio and then we might flesh them out and arrange them and write our own parts but we weren't involved we're very very very rarely very rarely involved in the actual first shoots of that song that was him on his own

And then he might work with Johnny or something.

But for me, I hadn't experienced that.