Ed O'Brien

And I can see bits and I'm sort of riffing on it, but you just put it perfectly.

But what you're saying is, presumably, that's a journey.

That's a very common journey.

But you know what's so interesting that I found?

I had several mantras and one of them was,

do this thing where i um i had every day part of my ritual was you know i meditate then i'd go outside with a pot of tea beautiful paimutan tea a white tea rain or shine any season and i'd listen to the birds and then i've got my book and i'd read my just my intentions and one of them was

was this thing, and you mentioned it, about nobody wants uncertainty.

One of my mantras is like, that's the place to be.

I know creatively that's the place to be, uncertainty, because uncertainty is, in creativity, that's the place where

you do your best work.

You're not relying on what's gone before, what you know, you're kind of out of your comfort zone.

And I think that's the same thing in life because what I love about, and I now, I embrace uncertainty.

Or I know that it's really good for me because that's the place that's free of past conditioning.

That's the place where everything that your mind has learned is the accumulation of a lifetime's worth of experiences.

in that place of uncertainty, that disappears and you're like, oh shit, where am I?

But that's where transformation happens.

And it is a funny thing.

I wonder if that's part of the journey, that's the journey of the soul, the evolution is that, you're right, when we're in a more,

not infantile space, but I wouldn't say infant, that wouldn't be fair, but certainly young adults, we seek comfort and we seek security.

We don't trust in the universe.