Eden VerBatin

Everybody kind of isolates their own views.

We're all able to post our own stuff, which is great.

But it's rare, especially on the opposing side, that they allow their thoughts to be challenged.

And I think that is one of the most effective ways to win the battlefield of the mind and the perspective of people.

So, yeah, it's something that I really love to do.

Definitely the masses mind, I think, especially when you're in a formal debate.

It's different when you're like with friends, kind of street style, and you're having a conversation and there's not a lot of people watching.

Then, of course, you're trying to change the person that you're interacting with's mind.

But when you're in a formal situation like that, you always go into it with the hope of making a best case for your position for the audience.

And I think that's what the other girls went in doing as well on the opposing side.

And I don't think they did a very good job.

But there were two of the women, not the two in the middle, who were, you know, obviously anti-Semitic or just...

anti-Jew in general, but there was two on the ends that I could tell were a little shaky and had no idea, not maybe just my position, but the position of the other girls in the room.

And I think that did a lot to change their minds, which is rare.

I had a few conversations with one of the girls, the more soft-spoken one, and she seemed very bothered by the way that the other girls held themselves and their position.

And even in the Holocaust denial part, she thought that was crazy.

She didn't even know that existed on her side.

And so I do think there's those rare opportunities where there are people who

that you can persuade while you're in the moment, but really when you're going into it, it's really just to capture the opinion of the audience.

Yeah.