Edward Gibson

Yeah. Well, dependency length is really about memory, right? I think that's like about sort of what's easier or harder to produce in some way. And these other ideas are about sort of robustness to communication. So the problem of potential loss of signal due to noise. So there may be aspects of word order, which is somewhat optimized for that. And we have this one guess in that direction.

Yeah. Well, dependency length is really about memory, right? I think that's like about sort of what's easier or harder to produce in some way. And these other ideas are about sort of robustness to communication. So the problem of potential loss of signal due to noise. So there may be aspects of word order, which is somewhat optimized for that. And we have this one guess in that direction.

Yeah. Well, dependency length is really about memory, right? I think that's like about sort of what's easier or harder to produce in some way. And these other ideas are about sort of robustness to communication. So the problem of potential loss of signal due to noise. So there may be aspects of word order, which is somewhat optimized for that. And we have this one guess in that direction.

These are kind of just so stories, I have to be pretty frank. They're not I can't show this is true. All we can do is look at the current languages of the world. We can't see how languages change or anything because we've got these snapshots of a few hundred or a few thousand languages. We can't do the right modifications to test these things experimentally.

These are kind of just so stories, I have to be pretty frank. They're not I can't show this is true. All we can do is look at the current languages of the world. We can't see how languages change or anything because we've got these snapshots of a few hundred or a few thousand languages. We can't do the right modifications to test these things experimentally.

These are kind of just so stories, I have to be pretty frank. They're not I can't show this is true. All we can do is look at the current languages of the world. We can't see how languages change or anything because we've got these snapshots of a few hundred or a few thousand languages. We can't do the right modifications to test these things experimentally.

You know, so just take this with a grain of salt, okay, from here, this stuff. The dependency stuff, I'm much more solid on. I'm like, here's what the lengths are, and here's what's hard, and here's what's easy, and this is a reasonable structure. I think I'm pretty reasonable. Here's like, why does the word order look the way it does? We're now into shaky territory, but it's kind of cool. Yeah.

You know, so just take this with a grain of salt, okay, from here, this stuff. The dependency stuff, I'm much more solid on. I'm like, here's what the lengths are, and here's what's hard, and here's what's easy, and this is a reasonable structure. I think I'm pretty reasonable. Here's like, why does the word order look the way it does? We're now into shaky territory, but it's kind of cool. Yeah.

You know, so just take this with a grain of salt, okay, from here, this stuff. The dependency stuff, I'm much more solid on. I'm like, here's what the lengths are, and here's what's hard, and here's what's easy, and this is a reasonable structure. I think I'm pretty reasonable. Here's like, why does the word order look the way it does? We're now into shaky territory, but it's kind of cool. Yeah.

Yes, yes.

Yes, yes.

Yes, yes.

We think that there's at least three different kinds of things going on there. And we probably don't want to treat them all as the same. And so I think the right model, a better model of a noisy channel would have three different sources of noise, which are background noise, speaker-inherent noise, and listener-inherent noise. And those are all different things.

We think that there's at least three different kinds of things going on there. And we probably don't want to treat them all as the same. And so I think the right model, a better model of a noisy channel would have three different sources of noise, which are background noise, speaker-inherent noise, and listener-inherent noise. And those are all different things.

We think that there's at least three different kinds of things going on there. And we probably don't want to treat them all as the same. And so I think the right model, a better model of a noisy channel would have three different sources of noise, which are background noise, speaker-inherent noise, and listener-inherent noise. And those are all different things.

Well, how about just form still though? Like just what language you know? Like, so how well you know those languages?

Well, how about just form still though? Like just what language you know? Like, so how well you know those languages?

Well, how about just form still though? Like just what language you know? Like, so how well you know those languages?

language and so if it's second language for you versus first language and in how maybe what other languages you know these are still just form stuff and that's like potentially very informative and and you know how old you are these things probably matter right so like a child learning a language is is a you know as a noisy representation of english grammar uh you know depending on how old they are so maybe when they're six they're perfectly formed but

language and so if it's second language for you versus first language and in how maybe what other languages you know these are still just form stuff and that's like potentially very informative and and you know how old you are these things probably matter right so like a child learning a language is is a you know as a noisy representation of english grammar uh you know depending on how old they are so maybe when they're six they're perfectly formed but