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Edward Gibson

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

language and so if it's second language for you versus first language and in how maybe what other languages you know these are still just form stuff and that's like potentially very informative and and you know how old you are these things probably matter right so like a child learning a language is is a you know as a noisy representation of english grammar uh you know depending on how old they are so maybe when they're six they're perfectly formed but

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

Yeah, well, all the languages in the world's language, none is, right now, we know is any better than any other with respect to sort of optimizing dependency lengths, for example. They're all kind of do it, do it well. They all keep low. So I think of every human language as some kind of an optimization problem. a complex optimization problem to this communication problem.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

Yeah, well, all the languages in the world's language, none is, right now, we know is any better than any other with respect to sort of optimizing dependency lengths, for example. They're all kind of do it, do it well. They all keep low. So I think of every human language as some kind of an optimization problem. a complex optimization problem to this communication problem.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

Yeah, well, all the languages in the world's language, none is, right now, we know is any better than any other with respect to sort of optimizing dependency lengths, for example. They're all kind of do it, do it well. They all keep low. So I think of every human language as some kind of an optimization problem. a complex optimization problem to this communication problem.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And so they've like, they've solved it. They know they're just sort of noisy solutions to this problem of communication. There's just so many ways you can do this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And so they've like, they've solved it. They know they're just sort of noisy solutions to this problem of communication. There's just so many ways you can do this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And so they've like, they've solved it. They know they're just sort of noisy solutions to this problem of communication. There's just so many ways you can do this.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

They're probably less for communication. And learning. So yes, one of the factors, which is, yeah, so learning is messing this up a bit. And so, so for example, if it were just about minimizing dependency lengths and that was all that matters, you know, then we, you know, so then, then we might, find grammars which didn't have regularity in their rules.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

They're probably less for communication. And learning. So yes, one of the factors, which is, yeah, so learning is messing this up a bit. And so, so for example, if it were just about minimizing dependency lengths and that was all that matters, you know, then we, you know, so then, then we might, find grammars which didn't have regularity in their rules.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

They're probably less for communication. And learning. So yes, one of the factors, which is, yeah, so learning is messing this up a bit. And so, so for example, if it were just about minimizing dependency lengths and that was all that matters, you know, then we, you know, so then, then we might, find grammars which didn't have regularity in their rules.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

But languages always have regularity in their rules. So what I mean by that is that if I wanted to say something to you in the optimal way to say it, what really mattered to me, all that mattered was keeping the dependencies as close together as possible, then I would have a very lax set of phrase structure or dependency rule. I wouldn't have very many of those. I would have very little of that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

But languages always have regularity in their rules. So what I mean by that is that if I wanted to say something to you in the optimal way to say it, what really mattered to me, all that mattered was keeping the dependencies as close together as possible, then I would have a very lax set of phrase structure or dependency rule. I wouldn't have very many of those. I would have very little of that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

But languages always have regularity in their rules. So what I mean by that is that if I wanted to say something to you in the optimal way to say it, what really mattered to me, all that mattered was keeping the dependencies as close together as possible, then I would have a very lax set of phrase structure or dependency rule. I wouldn't have very many of those. I would have very little of that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And I would just put the words as close, the things that refer to the things that are connected right beside each other. But we don't do that. There are word order rules. And depending on the language, they're more and less strict. So you speak Russian, they're less strict than English. English has very rigid word order rules. We order things in a very particular way. And so why do we do that?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And I would just put the words as close, the things that refer to the things that are connected right beside each other. But we don't do that. There are word order rules. And depending on the language, they're more and less strict. So you speak Russian, they're less strict than English. English has very rigid word order rules. We order things in a very particular way. And so why do we do that?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

And I would just put the words as close, the things that refer to the things that are connected right beside each other. But we don't do that. There are word order rules. And depending on the language, they're more and less strict. So you speak Russian, they're less strict than English. English has very rigid word order rules. We order things in a very particular way. And so why do we do that?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

That's probably not about communication. That's probably about learning. Then we're talking about learning. It's probably easier to learn Regular things, things which are very predictable and easy to... So that's probably about learning, is our guess, because that can't be about communication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

That's probably not about communication. That's probably about learning. Then we're talking about learning. It's probably easier to learn Regular things, things which are very predictable and easy to... So that's probably about learning, is our guess, because that can't be about communication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

That's probably not about communication. That's probably about learning. Then we're talking about learning. It's probably easier to learn Regular things, things which are very predictable and easy to... So that's probably about learning, is our guess, because that can't be about communication.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#426 โ€“ Edward Gibson: Human Language, Psycholinguistics, Syntax, Grammar & LLMs

Well, if it were just a communication, then we should have languages which have very, very free word order, and we don't have that. We have freer, but not free... Like, there's always...