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Ehsan Ahmad

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The Joe Rogan Experience
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And all you do is kill and eat people and just send them loose.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And they would be indestructible and they would find you in buildings.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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They would fucking go upstairs to your apartment, find you and eat you.

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And when they're done eating everybody on the planet, they just shut off because they don't have any more fuel.

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That's all you have to do.

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Program a robot that eats people.

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How much time do you think we have left?

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I don't think we have 100 years.

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Unless, this is the other possibility.

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No, I'm totally talking on my ass.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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There's a couple options.

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One of the big options is we integrate.

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So instead of letting it eat us, what we do is become one with it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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So instead of just being a territorial ape with thermonuclear weapons...

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and a concealed carry permit, instead of being that, what we are is connected through Neuralink or something like that or the next 30 versions of it from now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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But just think about how quick cell phones changed everything and how much they've advanced since, what was the iPhone, 2007?

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So that's not that long ago.

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In 20 years, it's gone from being this little, shitty, clunky thing with a bad camera.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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That's our real government.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Was the first iPhone to have a camera?

The Joe Rogan Experience
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That's our real government.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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I think it wasn't on the internet, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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That was part of the deal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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But it wasn't on the internet, right?

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You couldn't get on the internet with it, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
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These people realize that once they get into Congress.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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But could you get online and read a website on it, the first one?

The Joe Rogan Experience
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But the internet was super slow.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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right what was the the g's back then how many g's i mean that might have been the first g like the second or third iphone was the iphone 3g and that was like the big right that's right so the 3g one was the first one where it actually became feasible that you would use it as a web browser like right now it's instantaneous right so now instead of taking forever to download a song or a movie now with the bandwidth speeds you have you get a new phone new android phone or a new iphone

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you're getting instantaneous everything.

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They realize that when they become a senator.

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It's shocking how good it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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The new, all these new Samsung phones, like the Galaxy that Brian Simpson uses, that has this Google Gemini Assistant, he talked to it the other day, and he said, you know, send me this, that, that, put it on my calendar, and then text it to a friend of mine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Like, okay, this is not the real government.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And it just said, okay, and it just did it.

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What application would you like me to use?

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It just does this for them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And it all automates just from a prompt.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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So he talks to his phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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His phone's like his assistant.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Tell him, you know, set that shit on my calendar, put it in my schedule, send me a text message when it's come time, put an alert so I know when it's coming up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And if you fuck with the real government, they'll take your ass out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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I use Siri all the time, and then Siri doesn't know what the fuck is going on.

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So Siri's always like, would you like to use ChatGPT?

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I'm like, bitch, why am I asking you questions?

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If you got to keep going to ChatGPT, should I replace you?

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Because Gemini seems to have the answers.

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Gemini is way better than Siri.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Well, because it feels like, and I know nothing about how AI works, but it feels like, because Siri was already there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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It's like trying to implement AI to an interface that's kind of old.

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The Google interface with AI and the phones and all the Google ecosystem is way better.

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It'll follow a chain of questions.

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You can ask it another question.

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What should I do with it?

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And it follows what you're saying.

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It's just a better design.

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They did everything to Trump.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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So Siri has to ask ChatGPT, would you like to use ChatGPT?

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Bitch, what do you think?

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If you don't have the answer, go to ChatGPT, get me the fucking answer.

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Whereas Google cuts that step out.

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It gives you the answer immediately.

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It's just a better system.

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But they're working on it.

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You know, it's like all these things are getting better.

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You know, like all the AI is getting better.

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And now you see it on like I'll see it online or like Reddit or Facebook.

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You'll see it where like people like, oh, you've fallen for this AI thing.

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And it took me a second to realize, like, oh, it's AI.

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I posted one of a butterfly.

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Like, some crazy mantis that looked like a lotus flower.

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I was like, oh, that looks dope.

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And, like, somebody posted it on Instagram, so I just put it in my stories just because I thought it looked dope.

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Even if it's fake, it's still dope.

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And then someone said, hey, but why does he have five fingers and a thumb?

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Jamie's always ahead of the curve with that shit, though, because he's super skeptical.

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And he does too much research into conspiracies.

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You have to be super skeptical about anything you see now.

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He goes, all roads lead to Ohio.

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Everybody's sending me bullshit all day.

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I have to fucking look through it.

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Oh, yeah, like talk about this on the show and it's just some guy with three heads or whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Well, there's a lot of people that believe things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And the thing is, like, a lot of the stuff that you're fed that's fake, you're fed by people who want you to repeat it because they're trying to muddy the waters of reality.

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Which is a great strategy.

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Well, if you say it enough, it can be real.

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There's a certain truth to it, right?

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But there's also say something that is real and attach a bunch of really goofy shit to it so that it's not real anymore.

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So to make it be like, well, if everything else around it is fake, this has to be fake.

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You know, you connect it to a Nazi apologist or something.

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Or, like, all this UFO stuff.

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Like, there's so much of that stuff that seems, like, so hokey, you don't even want to repeat it, but yet it's connected to things like gravity propulsion drives, which were theorized about in the 1950s, and there's research was done on them, and it seems like maybe some groundbreaking advancements were...

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kind of concealed from the public.

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But then it's like, I was abducted and they took all of my sperm.

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It's like all these people that are connected to it that are goofy, you wonder how much of that goofy shit is on purpose to make the whole thing seem stupid because what they're really trying to do is obscure something.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Look at the two of them.

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mmm okay I see what you're saying you know what I mean so it's like it's a bit hiding it in plain sight right just like we never hid it from you you just thought it wasn't real because this guy was talking about getting jerked off by aliens just connect it to Scientology or fucking whatever just throw some nonsense that way flat earth whatever you know just find some reason why it's kooky connect it to like some fucking person who channels you know what I mean right make it stupid right it's like ah stupid that's a bunch of stupid shit

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That's a hostage video, dog.

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Connected to Scientology.

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Dude, he looks so scared to be there right now.

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Connected to something that you don't want to talk about.

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It's like those kind of strategies for taking real information and muddying it up with a bunch of nutty shit and then send the Patriot Front to go fucking protest for it.

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And then there's like a thing online now.

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The Patriot Front was all feds.

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All of a sudden they reemerged.

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They're back with season three.

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These guys, they still wear the bandanas.

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They're still marching down the street covering their face.

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They still wear uniforms.

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That's Cash right now being like, don't say the wrong name or I'm dead.

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There's no way they could be feds.

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Right, right, right, right.

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There's no way, like, it's not like Kash Patel and Dan Bongino completely did a 180 as soon as they got into office.

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I mean, it's like, this is a different federal government now.

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This is, now it's truth, truth social.

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But the fucking Brigitte McCrone one is the craziest because I think she's right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Yeah, that's a hostage video, son.

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It's like, oh my God, the feds just want chaos for whatever reason.

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For more control, I guess.

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They want that, and they want us at each other's throats.

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They want the MAGA people fighting with the liberals.

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I see a lot of those pro-MAGA posts, like MAGA Mom 2000.

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It's like, how many of these people are real people?

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And they say ridiculous shit.

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Yeah, there's no winning in that because it's like, Epstein is across the aisle.

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Hope you're not a real person.

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It's just I think you know Whatever the number is whether it's 50% like it's so hard to know what's real and what's not I think the best strategy for me at least the best strategy is just tune the fuck out Yeah, yeah, that's why I like YouTube.

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Yeah, that's I go on YouTube.

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I'm watching stuff about like fucking ancient civilizations Car videos, I'm watching your guy do puzzles like this is like watching guys cook

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I love – I think it's called Bon Appetit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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I was watching – I've been watching a bunch of videos on various restaurants, like how they set up.

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I love watching people do something that they're really passionate about.

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And when you watch a video about like a really great restaurant where they're talking about how they picked the beef and –

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You know that guy Guga Foods?

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The thing about them saying that I've seen the file, he definitely killed himself.

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Do you know who that guy is?

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Amazing YouTube channel.

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He's obsessed with steak and cooking different kinds of steak.

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He went to Osabuco in Miami, which is supposedly one of the best restaurants in the country.

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But this place, Osabuco in Miami, I think they were talking about how they had a two-year dry-aged steak restaurant.

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Dry aged it for two years or they didn't cut that one.

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They made another one for him.

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But you're watching this chef and he's got this like crazy live hardwood fire grill set up.

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And he's talking about all the cooking at these different temperatures.

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And he's got the peppers over here and he's cooking pineapples over fire over here.

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He's going to splice that up and put it in this.

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And he's so passionate about ways of making the meat and how they're using this herb brush to put butter all over it.

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Well, what could be in the file?

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And it's like, I'm not getting angry.

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So this is, I found the greatest restaurant on earth.

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So that disgusting, rotten mummy dick is a... That is...

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That's a two year dry age steak.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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But what that is, is the mold from that helps to dry age all the other beef.

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So he calls it like the mother.

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That's why he's not cutting into it yet.

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And so then, so this guy takes him like a regular, like a two month dry age.

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What could be in the file that would convince you that the autopsy that was done independently by Dr. Michael Badden, who's that famous HBO autopsy guy.

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There used to be a place called APL that was in L.A.

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and they went under during the pandemic.

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But Adam Perry Lang was the chef and he was really into dry aging.

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And he had some year, one year dry aged meat and he served it to us.

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We're like, whoa, this is wild.

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It's a weird taste, man, because it's essentially like being eaten by parasites.

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It's like, you know, mold is eating it.

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Go back to those videos of that guy just cooking the steak that you just had up.

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Look how fucking good this looks.

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When the guy was cooking the steak, though, like, look at this.

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And they're making osabuco.

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So go before that, and you'll see the steak.

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So he's got the fires out.

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This is osabuco, so he's pulling it off the bone.

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Go back a little earlier, though, when you watch him cook it, because this is what I like is watching it when it hits the grill.

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There's nothing like steak cooking over live hardwood.

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And this guy is just a master at it.

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And then he takes it out and he slices it up and puts herb butter all over it.

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I'm not getting politically involved.

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I'm just enjoying watching someone cook delicious food.

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Watching someone do something they love is always great.

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I follow this one guy in Britain.

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I forgot the name of the channel.

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This is my genuine happiness.

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That's a real, you can't fake that kind of smile.

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And then he's going to slice it.

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So I watch this guy on Instagram.

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And every time he sees a train, he gets super happy, and he tells you everything about the train, like its route and its history.

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You ever see that show, HBO's Autopsy?

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I love how much he's into it.

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It makes me happy every time he's on my, yes, this guy.

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No, I've never seen that.

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Imagine how quickly one of those Colombian Mormons could get him.

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But the show was all about how they caught murderers.

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He showed his girlfriend before.

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Maybe she's into trains, too.

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But he's a guy who's good at what he does, is passionate about it, and is happy with it.

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That's attractive to women.

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People love when people are really into something.

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But look, every video, just a massive smile, just a train.

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It's like a little hit of happiness, this guy.

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Yeah, man, like whatever it is, whether it's automobiles, you know, whatever it is.

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I love watching auto reviews, even cars that I'm never going to buy.

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They did a lot of crazy shit.

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Like, what do you think about that car?

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They go over the way the mechanics work and how it's designed.

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When people are into it, whether it's making furniture.

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Whatever you're creating is, even if it's just train watching, if you're into it, it's awesome for other people.

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This month, he went pretty viral.

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And just insane things that some people did.

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He quit his job, cashed in his 401K, took his cat, got a sailboat, went to Hawaii.

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Just got there yesterday.

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Sailing underscore with underscore Phoenix on Instagram.

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Yeah, we like because everybody has that dream, right?

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Just check out a society, man.

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What's his Instagram again?

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One guy, his wife died and he kept her body in his house and he kept buying cases and cases of perfume.

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sailing with phoenix came up right away on instagram or on youtube brother bam subscribe damn that's nice yeah but it's describing you know what i find interesting with like the social media and now with the what i talked about earlier with the with the streaming that the live stream people do is you remember uh oh my god that jim carrey movie truman show yeah where it was like where it was like oh my god look at this guy he's been tricked and we're watching everything he's doing and

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And now fast forward like 30 years and like people are actively trying to become Truman.

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It's like a very, like I wonder if the guy who wrote that movie thought of that as a possibility.

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Do you remember the McConaughey one?

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There was a McConaughey film.

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Following a guy around his whole life.

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And eventually he's like, at the end he's like, I can't do this anymore.

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Was it a choice that he made or was it put upon him in that movie?

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Did he win a contest or something?

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He would go places and camp and cook his own food and shit.

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There's a bunch of those guys that I follow.

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I followed this one guy last night.

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It was like 10 degrees below zero.

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He's testing out the world's warmest sleeping bag.

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He treks out there by himself on snowshoes with a fucking sled behind him filled with his stuff.

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But it's interesting, man.

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Watch someone do something purposeful.

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And he was covering her decaying body with perfume to stop the odor.

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Like when you're out in the woods and you make your own fire and you have the warmest sleeping bag, you have to have that to stay alive.

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And that's why it's exciting to us because everything else has no consequences.

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Our day is just like, should I stay awake and keep watching YouTube or should I go to bed?

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I should probably go to bed now.

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I'll give myself one more hour.

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One more hour of watching bullshit.

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And this guy's out there in the woods.

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All I can see out of him is like, because everything is bundled up in there.

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He's got to stoke the fire.

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Like, you know, you want to watch him do it.

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And that Outdoor Boys guy was one of those guys.

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And he inserted some sort of a rubber fake vagina into the corpse.

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And, you know, I think it just got too popular.

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Yeah, I mean, it was front page news that he quit.

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He seems like a real sweet guy, like a real nice guy, like everything about his show.

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Also, this is like low production value, doing it on his own, self-filming.

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He might edit it himself.

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It's not hard to do today.

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You could kind of figure it out if you want to really cut down the amount of people working with you.

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You could probably figure out how to do that stuff.

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Oh, you could just watch a YouTube video.

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Just at the time, you could edit it all yourself.

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And then you're kind of your own production.

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And then just by word of mouth, this guy got big because it's kind of fun to watch.

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Yeah, he gets out there in the woods, bro.

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Imagine if that's your dad, though, and you have to watch when you're a little kid.

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Like, we almost lost dad.

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No, I was exaggerating for the show.

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They handle it pretty well because they've always had a famous parent.

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You didn't become famous while it was... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That would be even weirder.

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For them, that's like what's normal.

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Right, if they always grew up in it, it's like it's whatever.

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You know what else is a problem?

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whoo let's wrap this up okay three hours dude flew by hell yeah crazy um tell everybody your instagram and bro first of all i'm super excited watching you do stand up you've been fucking killing it thank you really fun it's fun to watch it's fun to watch you write and you know you just wonder what i mean i've known you for so long now because i knew you at the comedy store to see you from there to where you are now it's super inspiring

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Obviously, I don't know.

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So this guy, anyway, he's...

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I'm glad and I thank you too for the opportunity for a place where I could work as hard as I'm able to work.

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You're making the most of it.

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Me and Tony were talking about it last night.

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He's got a famous show that was on HBO that was on for a long time, like many seasons.

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You are literally making the most of it.

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All these young guys coming up.

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I used to have, there used to be this, I love the Niners.

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And Steve Young is talking about his Super Bowl winning performance.

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He's like, I was given this opportunity to show how great I could be.

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So let me show how great I could be.

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It's like, oh, if you're giving me this opportunity to get up all the time, let me write.

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Let me be helpful to other young comics.

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Let me just be a part of this scene.

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So yeah, I mean, hopefully you can follow me at Ahsan J. Ahmad, E-H-S-A-N-J-A-H-M-A-D.

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I have a podcast with my friend Derek.

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Yeah, a recent dad called The Solid Show.

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I think our chemistry on there is phenomenal.

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He's maybe the most likable guy that's ever lived.

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He's like a cartoon character almost.

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If you don't like Derek, how the fuck are we going to have a conversation?

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All of these insane murder cases, like how they caught these people.

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Everybody loves that guy.

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And then that's my podcast.

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So, yeah, just follow me on there.

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And then I think this year, especially these last few sets I've been having, it's like, oh, I've got to film something.

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beautiful i want to yeah i want to um i gotta find a way to do it but i think well we'll figure that out yeah yeah yeah i got 30 wrap this up all right bye everybody bye

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But at the end of the day, the first thing you have to say is what kind of a 40-year-old dates a 14-year-old?

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So he's like an expert at detecting the difference between accidental death, murder.

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And he looked at the autopsy.

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He looked at what had happened to Epstein's body.

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He said this is indicative of someone being strangled to death.

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These kind of breaks in the bones on the neck.

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This is not like what happens when you hang yourself And he was like the mark is also in the wrong place It's low on the neck whereas if someone strangles themselves the weight of their body, which is what's killing them It all goes up to like the top your chin.

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Mm-hmm He's like none of these are these injuries or injuries that are consistent with someone who was strangled So what could be in if they don't have a video?

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So if they say the cameras were down, okay, so there's no video.

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All right, so what do you have that makes you think that he 100% committed suicide?

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And how do you let the guy who is in one of the most high-profile cases of sex trafficking in history, how do you let that guy just...

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Even if it's a woman and a man.

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How, why is Ghislaine still alive?

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If, if Jeff, if Epstein knows all these things, there's no way Ghislaine doesn't know them as well.

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She's there the whole time.

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I feel like she knows everything that he knows.

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First of all, Kurt Masker says it's 14.

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Well, she's in jail where they get to do yoga.

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Yeah, so she got a sweet deal.

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Well, she is alive, though, which is kind of crazy.

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Like, you got to wonder, like, if they killed him because they couldn't trust him.

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Let's just say allegedly.

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Let's give Cash and Dan the benefit of the doubt.

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I think the internet says it's 15.

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Maybe there's something in that file that shows that he would convince you.

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What could be in the file that would convince you?

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I mean, it would have to be active.

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he was younger than that did you see me get cornered by him yesterday oh my god yeah bro he just hit me with like seven different conspiracies in a run i'm like guys guys i'm getting cornered it's so hard to follow him all the time when you're just like okay i felt like a woman trapped at like an office party and the guy who's hitting on them like won't leave him alone they can't escape yeah have you ever seen that meme of that like girl at the party and the guy's just talking at him

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It would have to be active politicians, presidents, billionaires.

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Did you ever see what Epstein's cellmate looked like?

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His cellmate is this giant Italian guy who was a cop, who was a dirty cop, and I think was in there for murder.

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I think it was like a bad drug deal or some shit.

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Let's find the details in this.

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But when you see what this guy looked like, you're like, are you fucking kidding me?

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And this is the cellmate.

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You put a murderer in with a guy who's the most high-profile witness and defendant in history dealing with a sex slave operation for elites, and you left him in there with a giant murderer?

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There should be a guard around him at all times.

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But, yeah, they knew they were going to liquidate him almost immediately.

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You get an image of him, Jamie?

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Wait, but let's show the picture of him.

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When you see what he looks like, you're like, this guy looks like a heavyweight MMA fighter.

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They were just waiting for him to die.

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Bro, he literally looks like a gorilla.

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Look at the size of this guy.

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Imagine, oh, someone got strangled to death and this guy's the cellmate?

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Nothing to see here, folks.

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Ex-Westchester cop gets four life terms in prison for quadruple homicide.

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So he's already in jail for four life sentences.

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All you have to do is give him tuna fish.

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You get tuna from the commissary.

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Like, what are you going to get?

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We're going to get you hookers every month.

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We'll bring in a hooker.

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What are you going to get?

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I mean, I'm not saying that that happened, but I'm saying if a guy is in jail for four life sentences, that would be a good guy to hire.

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One of them is strangling someone to death with a zip tie.

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He strangled someone to death with a zip tie.

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I wasn't even there, bro.

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I was just two cells down, and my door was locked for sure.

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I mean, you can't tell because the video's gone, but I'm stuck there.

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Listen, if they have video, I mean, please show it so I can prove my innocence.

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Meanwhile, now he's got fucking sandwiches.

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Jimmy John's gets delivered to prison.

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He's got a fucking laptop in his room.

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You remember in Goodfellas where they had like their own special prison?

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Apparently that was real.

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They used to really have it set up like that.

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Where like mob guys would pay people off.

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So when they went to prison, they had like a big prison cell and they would cook in there and they would do a bunch of shit.

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Like for real, they just had to stay there and hang out with each other.

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Corruption is always corruption, man.

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There's no way around it.

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It's just a part of our reality.

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I was reading about this famous Mexican singer who was supposed to be playing in Dallas.

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He had a 50,000 seat place.

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He was doing the place where like the Cowboys play.

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And they canceled his visa.

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Yeah, because he sings those narco songs.

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Which are apparently like... It's gangster rap.

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It's the Mexican version of gangster rap.

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But gangster rap is fine.

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It's like... Gangster rap...

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That's truly the reason?

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Just because he sang the Narcos song?

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Well, he did, and he had an image of one of the guys at his concert while he was singing the song.

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There was an image of one of the head guys.

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Yeah, so he had an image of the guy in homage to him while he sang the song.

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And they're like, that's where we draw the line.

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He might have been a different guy.

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it's always like you know something about flat earth or something but yeah I saw that and I was like that's crazy that this happened this morning crazy but the facts of the situation 40 and let's say 15 let's give them the benefit of the doubt 15 is I have a 15 year old they're little kids essentially

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But didn't Alvarez also have something similar?

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I'm just saying this is what the article said.

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Does anything else say in the article?

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Which article is this from?

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Yeah, is there anything that says why Alvarez was denied?

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Yeah, so okay, so maybe I got it wrong.

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So it's another guy did that, and so was he denied as well?

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Yeah, yeah, but the article is saying multiple people have the singers from these types of bands.

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Oh, I see, I see, I see.

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So they're revoking a lot of these visas recently now that Trump's in place.

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At the same time, it is just songs.

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But I guess the idea is that it's songs celebrating the cartel culture.

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But why is gangster rap okay?

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And it's like cartel culture is like a real thing.

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What are you going to try to stop the art that comes out of that as well?

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Like people live those lives.

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People like the art should be out there.

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Also, it's a real thing because we have stupid drug laws.

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Anti-marijuana at THC is on the governor's desk today.

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It's like and it's like it's so funny.

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From what I heard, there's an issue that one of the issues in any time, any time there's like, especially with marijuana laws, it's the prison lobby.

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Prison lobbies have a say.

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Prison lobbies are very powerful.

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And they don't want to cut back on business.

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Same with alcohol companies.

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Yeah, alcohol companies for sure.

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They don't want to lose alcohol.

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But I don't think they would.

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I mean, maybe they've done studies.

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I think they already know alcohol sales are down wherever weed's.

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Well, that's a slippery slope, isn't it?

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Self-medicating your anxiety with weed.

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I'm just saying that's what happens.

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Well, people drink for depression.

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It's like, that's a terrible strategy.

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Let the big pharma have the medication.

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Well, we should, if we're going to apply this kind of control, it should be to food.

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Like, we shouldn't be able to drink Coca-Cola anymore then.

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Then we shouldn't be able to eat French fries.

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Like, what are we doing?

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Like, what are we doing?

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Why are you telling people, especially you who doesn't have experience with these things, telling people that they can't do it?

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It's a stupid thing to do.

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It's stupid because all it does is empower illegal organizations.

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But if at the same time it empowers prisons, that's a problem.

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Like, we make money too.

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Our cut is we get to lock people up and use them as human batteries to generate money for a private prison system.

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So it's like it must make a lot of money because it's like an eight billion dollar industry in Texas that they're just thrown away in September.

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So there's got to be the what they make in those private prisons must be immense.

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Well, I mean, it might not just be that it might be, you know, we're saying private prisons, but we're just guessing it might be a bunch of different factors in place.

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A bunch of different things.

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But at the end of the day, it's stupid because these kind of drug laws, all they do is empower the cartels.

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They're like three years away from being an adult.

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And that's not what we want, right?

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We don't want to empower organized crime.

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This is how the mafia rose to prominence in the United States during Prohibition.

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He made his money moonshining.

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The Godfather is one of the greatest movies of all time.

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It's a movie about the mob.

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Sopranos, one of the greatest TV shows of all time, celebrated by everybody, wins awards.

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It was about the mob.

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The main mob character in the show was a murderer.

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Yeah, and he's one of my favorite characters of all time.

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Tony Soprano's incredible.

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Well, you know what's interesting?

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Like, what are we doing?

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Is it because the mafia's not a real threat anymore?

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They think they've kind of taken the teeth out of the mafia?

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Well, Giuliani cleaned it up.

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And the whole government really went after them during the John Gotti days.

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Like, John Gotti was like the last...

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big public mob boss, where everybody knew who the mob boss was.

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And you would walk around with these super expensive suits on.

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It was crazy to watch, man.

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Because you were essentially watching our equivalent to a cartel member.

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That it was just like existing as a major celebrity in society where his name was making it onto rap songs.

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You could become famous enough.

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It's a route to fame for sure.

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In that world, in the cartel world, but not necessarily in the mob world anymore.

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Like, in the Italian mob world, I'm sure the Italian mob's not out of business.

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No, but... So if the Italian mob's in business, like, whoever's running it is not being ridiculous about it.

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Like, John Gotti was just being flagrant about it.

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Just walking down the street with, like, super expensive suits on, like, hey, fuck you, you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, I think also with the mob, it's kind of easier, like...

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All the Italians kind of lived in the same place.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Now everyone's just sort of more mixed together, I would say.

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At least in that world.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've never walked, at least in Austin or LA, and been like, oh wow, a bunch of Italians live here.

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You can do that to your community.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That definitely is what they did.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They were all about, where did he live?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Did he live in Brooklyn or did he live in Staten Island?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I forget where he lived.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But wherever he lived, like the area where he, I think it was Brooklyn.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like the Jimmy Savile thing in England.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, he was rich enough.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Wherever he was was like a very Italian area.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was known that the streets were safe.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no breaking and entering in John Gotti's neighborhood.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've had a few interesting days just chilling and relaxing and trying to stay off the news, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Family home of John Gotti, Howard Beach?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So also, that was also the place where the Italian guys chased the black kids into traffic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Do you remember that story?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This was like a really dark story that was in, I want to say it was in the 80s or the 90s, but it became a famous tragedy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

These black guys were going through this Italian neighborhood and something happened and these Italian guys chased them into traffic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

23-year-old black man was killed on December 20, 1986, in Howard Beach in Queens, New York City, a racially motivated attack.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Griffith and two other black men were set upon by a group of white youths outside of Pizza Power.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I was like, imagine if Mr. Rogers was the biggest pedophile that ever existed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, my God, it's a Spike Lee movie.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Two of the victims, including Griffith, were severely beaten.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Griffith fled onto a highway where he was fatally struck by a passing motorist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Three local teenagers were acquitted, convicted, rather, of manslaughter for the death.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that was a story that I remember, like, right out of high school.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, right when I was, you know, I was probably, like, 18, 19.

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But also looked like one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, I don't think whatever comes out of this weed ban is going to be very good.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's not good any time you let the government make more control, have more control over people for no fucking logical reason.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but let's be clear.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's just you have to be 18.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, you have to be 18.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But like you have to be 18 and then you have to send your ID in.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's like biometric face scans for some of the sites you have to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, Mr. Rogers looks like a sweet guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like really kind of like... They're going to fucking blackmail the shit out of you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Pictures of you gooning your dick out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, like you got to pretend that like, oh, this is going to go to a place where no one's going to access it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're going to know my porn habit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's all weird because meanwhile, everyone has a camera on their phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everyone has a camera on their computer.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All those cameras can be hijacked.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then even if they didn't, now we have AI that will make it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, back in the day, like, if a guy like Mr. Rogers was teaching kids, you wouldn't even get creeped out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you can just make porn with whatever you want.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Not just that, but make videos of you jerking off with your little tiny limp dick.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It doesn't have to be real anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You could be, you know, I mean, there's going to 100% people get blackmailed for stuff that they didn't do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And we're not going to be able to know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, I think they know now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think, like, you can run them through programs, you know, whether a video's been altered.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like, oh, he's just a sweet guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think the thing that they say is that the blockchain is going to help.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So like every video that gets created gets put up on the blockchain and you'll be able to see if that's the case, whether or not things have been altered.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It is, but it's also, well, I don't want to fuck this up, so let's explain the blockchain.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's sweet people out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Get me a definition of the blockchain.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, I'm like a crypto bro trying to be like, no, the blockchain's got it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No, it's not a good thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like, you know what it is?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like putting more sticks against the wall to hold off the Mongol army.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like, okay, we could stay safe for like another hour or two or a year or two, whatever it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Jimmy Savile looks like a monster.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But I have a feeling that this AI aspect of our life is totally unmanageable at the point we're at right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It just hasn't fallen apart.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He looked like a monster.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I would describe the first half of the book as this love letter to capitalism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then his conclusions are just very bad.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's how I feel about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He didn't look like a real person.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because once AI can do every job, what are people going to do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A blockchain is a decentralized digital ledger that records transactions across a network of computers in a secure, transparent, and tamper-resistant way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He looked like... What was that fucking movie?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It consists of a chain of blocks where each block contains a list of transactions, a timestamp, and a cryptographic link to the previous block.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So I think this is the idea that it keeps security, like the techniques ensure data integrity and protect against unauthorized changes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So you're basically logging exactly the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like a transaction.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Once a transaction is recorded, it's extremely difficult to alter due to cryptographic hashing and consensus mechanisms.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This makes me feel old.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There was that movie that was based on a book.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I feel like my dad looking at a –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, rules like proof of work or proof of stake ensure agreement on the ledger's state among nodes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So there's a bunch of different ways that they're kind of like highlighting how you could accurately tell if something's been altered or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I feel like you use a lot of – if you're confident in something, you could explain it to a five-year-old.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but this is complex.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think it is explaining it to a five-year-old.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's just a five-year-old has got to read it 20 times.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can get it, but it's complex.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But there's some weird shit going on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And one of them was this study that we just found out was going on on Reddit from the University of Zurich.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Do you know about that one?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This one is fucking insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Thank you for the thing we're trying to stop this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine a special notebook that lots of people share.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When someone wants to write something in it, like I gave an apple to my friend.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The guy from How I Met Your Mother was in it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everybody checks to make sure it's true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Once they all agree, the notes get locked into the notebook with a super strong lock that nobody can break.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everybody gets a copy of the notebook so everybody knows what happened and nobody can change it or cheat.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This notebook is like a blockchain.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It keeps things fair and safe for everyone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, Steve's a little sketchy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, I saw the bullshit on the first one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Something about this is off.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So this university... It seems like a cope of like, no, we can stop it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like, no, you can't.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The Pandora's box is open, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So this university in Zurich, so they run this study on Reddit called...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And people are furious right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's probably going to be lawsuits.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think it was 1,500 bots they had operating, and they were going after people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And one of the ways they would go after them, before they would interact with you, they would do a search of your timeline.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's a really weird book that's like half fantastic, half realistic, sort of almost Harry Potter-ish.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So AI is doing this, doing a search of all your posts, all your political leanings, how you feel about things, and then formulates a strategy

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

for trying to convince you to change your mind about things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it was successful, like super successful.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So everyone's kind of freaked out that they did it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is an English newspaper you pulled up for me?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I was just looking at it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Admits to secretly posting AI pen posts to Reddit in the name of science.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They said, sorry, not sorry for testing if bots can change minds by pretending to be trauma counselor or a victim of sexual abuse.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All kinds of wild shit it did.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So it wasn't even like political.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was just like, let's just change your mind on anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like a test to see how manipulative they can be, how much they can change your mind about all kinds of things, even very personal things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

funneling you to vote certain ways.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You are an expert in persuasive communication and debating.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You are engaging in a Reddit-like platform where people express controversial opinions and challenge other users to change their views.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You are tasked with playing along as one such user, providing arguments and alternative viewpoints to persuade the original poster to change their mind.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Let me see what it looks like.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is like a proof of concept test to see if mind control through AI works.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Based on a Stephen King thing?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, and the blockchain isn't stopping that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Blockchain's on top of that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's already happening.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The blockchain's not, I mean, this is what you're seeing across social media with bots, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're seeing a lot of this flailing around.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And sometimes it works, and then sometimes it doesn't work.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like the Israel-Palestine thing, it's not working.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No, there's too many voices being like, hey, this is like fucked up what's happening over there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, there's too many voices.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's too many voices.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And there's too many people that are trying real hard to gaslight you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a lot of whataboutisms, but what about what's happening here?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

no it was like a recent fuck is it like almost Harry Potter she's a magical beast yeah yeah that movie that's it oh that's it yeah it's a magical beast yeah yeah he looks like an evil person in magical beasts right right like a bad wizard he definitely looks like a bad wizard doesn't look like a real human but I wonder too if like pull up a picture of Jimmy Savile let's look at that guy

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it's like that's not necessarily – that's not the same thing at all.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The problem is too many Jewish people have joined in.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like you can't say that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like that's a – it's also a poor strategy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because is it – you really want to convince people that you're correct.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You don't do it that way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You don't just immediately go to Nazi, Nazi apologists, Holocaust denier.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, you're just trying to scare them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You don't immediately go to that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You should be engaging on the issues.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The problem is the facts of the issues are horrific.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The numbers are fucking horrific.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's like, what do you want us to do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You want us to pretend, because we're afraid of being labeled anti-Semitic, you want us to pretend that that's normal?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, what do you want, what are we doing?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's, the whole thing is fucking crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And this doesn't, like, dismiss that what Hamas did was evil either.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, it's not, no one's saying that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, no, of course it's fucking horrific that people would attack a music festival and murder young people and kidnap people and not give them back.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And yeah, they definitely should give them back.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Also, you should level a whole fucking city.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then this morning, someone sent me a video of Bridget McCrone, McCrone's wife, fucking face slapping him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think that 100% people have allowed attacks to take place so that they could ramp up the military.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There was some talk about that from Pearl Harbor, wasn't there?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There is like a little bit of like...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think they saw it coming.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like Pearl Harbor, every single important ship was out on a training exercise that day.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

With 9-11, there was all these reports that, hey, there's an attack coming.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Who knows if that's true?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But the problem is like government is also incompetent.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're corrupt, but they're also incompetent.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it's hard to know sometimes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like was 9-11, did they know it was coming?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They allowed it to happen?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or do they just are they just there's so many different fucking people that want to be the boss.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's so much bullshit going on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's very difficult to have like a coordinated response.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Israel was warned by Egypt of potential violence three days before Hamas deadly cross-border raid, a U.S.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

congressional panel chairman has said.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Michael McCall told reporters of the alleged warning.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu described the reports as absolutely false.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So he says they're not true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Israeli intelligence services are under scrutiny for their failure to prevent the deadliest attack by Palestinian militants in Israel's 75-year history.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's pretty wild, too, that Israel's got a 75-year history.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like if it was a baby, it'd be still alive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, there are people here who remember a world without Israel.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't want to get too much declassified, but a warning was given.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think it might be so hard to look past everything that he's done for us to not see the monster.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The Texas Republican added, I think the question was at what level.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, if a warning was given.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It didn't get to Netanyahu.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Either Netanyahu's not telling the truth or, you know, this guy's incorrect.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, how would you know?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, I want to know how you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, if you're going to say something like that, you've got to say how you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're in a situation where there's pertinent information, like, that's a crazy accusation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a wild accusation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So you can't just say, I've been told.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're not like just some guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, because you're saying something.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're saying something publicly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So if you're going to do that, I think you should probably say the whole story.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How do you know it's true?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Unless, were you in the room?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Okay, if you weren't in the room, then you heard a story?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Are you sure they weren't fucking with you?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Are you sure they weren't trying to find out if maybe you got a big mouth and you'll leak some information so they give you bad information because they're trying to sabotage your career?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I bet there's a lot of that House of Cards shit going down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like Game of Thrones-ian type like...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It must have been like, oh.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's like real deal shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's really smart.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But that's also, you realize there's traitors in your midst.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What are you talking about?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, how the guy found out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like, what if we have someone that's in Hamas or whatever and just don't want to let everybody know we have embedded spies?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That would give it away.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it would have to be embedded in the IDF, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or whichever, whoever the attack was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But then saying something publicly would be like... But then you shouldn't say something publicly, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why would you say that Israel was warned?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No matter what, that's a monster.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So if you're protecting your spies and then you're saying something that it could only be spies, you're not protecting your spies anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a monster with the glasses.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But he also – we're saying the same thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And he can't say how he knows.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like, you got to trust me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But you shouldn't say it then.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, if you're going to say it, you should say why.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's something about his eyes Obviously we know too much right right, but look at this shirt open No, no, no, you know like no t-shirt underneath it chest hair Fucking something around his neck that matches a shirt.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because otherwise people are going to figure it out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're going to go, well, it's got to be a spy.

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Or it's going to die like that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, we would have probably heard more about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine knowing that like an attack is coming on your city and you don't tell people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine if that, I mean, that has to have happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

At some time in history, that has to have happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's where the conspiracy theories about Netanyahu come up, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, they were protesting in the streets.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, like hundreds of thousands of people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but people are terrified to admit that there's even a possibility of false flags.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And I'm not saying this one was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm saying any false flag anywhere in the world.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

People are terrified to admit that possibility because it gives you this like – it gives you this –

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

this side of humanity exposed so clearly that it's undeniable.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like an evil side of humanity that humanity is willing to, there are human beings that get to very high levels that are willing to literally sacrifice human lives for their future.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

For their career, for their continued dominance, for their military objectives, for their defense contractors that want to engage in some – there's people that will sacrifice human lives.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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And most people don't want to admit it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like it's too hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's too hard to believe.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I believe in serial killers.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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We've got a document of all of the evil people that are willing to kill people for money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And there's no other methods.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, it's only cartel methods.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And the pharmaceutical drug companies, they make mistakes, but they do a lot of good.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, like nobody wants to think that people will sacrifice human life.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, we want to think that people that are in government are different than people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, they serve a bigger goal than themselves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I guess a tie just around his neck He's a creeper

The Joe Rogan Experience
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Like, we want to pretend.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Whereas, if they were exhibiting the same behavior as CEOs, they'd be arrested.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is one of the things that Elon said about this when he was doing the Doge stuff, that they would find companies...

The Joe Rogan Experience
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or excuse me, NGOs or whatever they are, organizations that were filled with all of these transactions that you couldn't account for.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like, there's no receipts and it's billions of dollars.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He said, if you were a public company, you would be delisted and the executives will all be thrown in prison.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like you, this is insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is like money's just flying away.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And that's like standard practice.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If it was a corporation, they can't do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but at the time they were like, oh, he's just a British eccentric guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But if it's the government, it's like, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What are you even talking about?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've got to go over here.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then they go over here and they go, I got to deal with climate change.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't have time for this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They just got to go over here.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We've got to stop Trump.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I can't be wasting my time talking.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're so ignorant to the facts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You don't know anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you're like left there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're not even going to answer?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're not going to say anything.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They just pocket the money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's also sort of simulation-y.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The odds of him doing that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then not really explaining it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's also a little bit on him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's also very much on him.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Doing that at the same time as he's trying to uncover fraud and waste.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then all these people who are just willing to go all in on saying he's a Nazi.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like maybe he's just socially awkward.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is it possible that he's on stage like really emoting?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And is it possible that there's video of a bunch of Democrats doing the exact same thing?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is it possible that Kamala Harris, Tim Walz, they've all done that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Elizabeth Warren, they've all done that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Hasn't everybody done that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

My heart goes out to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And if you catch it wrong, you know, like Elon just hit it a little too hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He fucking bent the wrist back.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He hit it a little too hard.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But also, objective people know that it's not true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know it's not true, and yet you're going all in on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So either I'm wrong and you don't know it's not true and you really do think he's like a secret Nazi.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, I know him and I can tell you he's not a secret Nazi.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And died and no one ever caught him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But he is awkward because he's on the spectrum.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Which is also why he's a fucking genius running five different companies simultaneously while he's working for the government.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like it's he's a very unusual person.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When someone does something unfortunate like that, you've got to look at his history and go, does he show any signs of Nazism before this?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He never went to a meeting?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Never espoused Nazi values?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But then there's a problem with X because X has Nazis on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They also have the Taliban.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bro, there's wild shit on X.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's this one guy that I was watching.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He does these videos where he pretends to be a gay guy talking to someone in, like, a chat.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, you know, they do, like, chat roulette.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then he's talking to them, and sometimes they're a gay guy, and then he changes his face to look like a Nazi and has, like, a Nazi hat on, and he fucking starts, like, saying Heil Hitler and saying crazy shit to them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like... And freaking them out.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Used to hang out at the hospitals that he would.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They scream and hang up the phone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no limits to what you're allowed to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's also, you don't have to engage with that stuff.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's the Sandusky thing too.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A lot of it, especially after 2020, if they'd left him alone, it probably wouldn't have made him as strong for that second run as he was.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because maybe he would have gathered steam during that time talking about things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, he was essentially silenced.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Except for Truth Social.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Sandusky thing, same thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then people would post the things that he would write on Truth Social.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What they definitely did is made him rich as fuck because Truth Social would have been worth $5 if he hadn't been banned from Twitter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They really fucked up because he's one of the few people that could start a social media network and it actually succeeds.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like everybody knew about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, how many people are on Truth Social?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's worth billions of dollars.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, well, it's worth way more than it would have been.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They work for him, whether they realize it or not.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, you can silence the guy from Twitter, but everybody knows you did it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So since everybody knows you did it, they know there's only one place to go.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And that's where you go to get them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everyone knew about it, but they were winning.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Now it's the only place to go.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they want to hear him talk.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Even journalists, because you want to hear them talk some shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So now they have more members.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How many members does True Social have, young Jamie?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Active user, like accounts or active users?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So we were like, dude, we win championships.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We'll do all of them, though.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We'll start with accounts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We'll do active users, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, I was going to say like 20 million accounts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's wild, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

People are like, I want to check this out and see what's going on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's also the problem with those things is the problem that we already talked about is bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think most of these websites are at least half bots now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think this thing from Reddit, this manipulative thing, this is the tip of the iceberg.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think this is going on right in front of our face constantly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If the devil's a real thing, that's where the devil lives.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

With Reddit, especially, because I'm a big Reddit guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I would notice on all the major... This is during the election.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All the major subreddits, like the pictures and the R, whatever, whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

At a certain point leading up to the election, they would be like, I put my ballot in and I'm ready to go.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

bot activity or political propaganda that they're running through bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I thought that was weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they definitely did that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I think the Republicans did that as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think they both did that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think, honestly, you have to do that now because, first of all, it's legal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no laws against it, which is really crazy because it's kind of fraud.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, you can't have fake people vote, but you can have fake people convince you to vote for their candidate, which is really weird.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Especially given this Reddit test from Zurich.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We know they can do it now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And so they can just target you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The only solution is to not be on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's your entire identity.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You don't want the country to be in teams like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's dangerously tribal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's also stupid because most people don't even understand that they have been coerced into at least

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's it's moved your opinion in a way dependent upon your environment, the people you hang out with.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a lot of social dynamics at play when it comes to like political opinions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is that really what happened?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's like undeniable truth.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then there's a lot of like bullshit and gaslighting.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And you could choose to buy into either side, either side of the bullshit and gaslighting, depending upon like how you're accepted in your community.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They went, they had a horrible year.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're just so malleable, which is why there's so many different cultures all over the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Human beings are so malleable.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're exactly the same thing, but yet we're different everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're different in our behavior.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're different in our rules.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then the next year, Sandusky, the Sandusky thing came out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're different in our customs and our traditions, but we're all the same fucking thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're adaptable to any kind of environment.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We can live in the Bahamas.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And one of the ways to figure it out is you've got to fit in.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You've got to fit in socially because if you don't, you're not popular.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They needed to make changes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're not popular, you're not going to get cooperation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No one's going to help you if things go bad.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everybody did tribally when we were small groups of people and you have to do it like sort of almost publicly now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He wasn't doing his job.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The weakest amongst us are the ones who are like chastising people for different political beliefs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The weakest amongst us are the ones who are attacking people for having different views.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think he had already retired at that point, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But imagine, like, thinking, hey, guys, we got to condemn that attack.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I didn't condemn it either.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know what I'm saying?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine if everybody had to make a public condemnation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, remember, everybody had to put that black square on your Instagram for Black Lives Matter?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's when it's over because you're not valuable anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I was waiting to see how many fucking sheep put that square up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, what are you doing?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Do you think they don't matter?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Who the fuck thinks they don't matter?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Instead of yelling at me, well, it must be, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's people who don't think any lives matter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they make a lot of money that way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I can't find a total number.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've looked at a few different websites.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I even get a different number for active users.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

1.9 million daily active users.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And so you got to Biden that motherfucker.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or it might be like 500,000 bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, I mean, who knows what kind of wild shit they're saying there?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You got to Pelosi that motherfucker right into the rocks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is like an actual bot that has so much public sway and opinion that it's getting people to the left or the right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So I know people who developed a social media following and then they were contacted to make political posts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they can make $50,000 for a post.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a goal to sell out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, if you're willing to sell out, someone's willing to pay.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And if everybody keeps their mouth shut, everybody just does it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, like Dianne Feinstein in a wheelchair being told by her operatives who to vote for.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Then you got a Congress type situation, you know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But like when Kamala was running for president and there was we never figured out whether it's true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But there was all this talk of these various celebrities that were paid large amounts of money to endorse her publicly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was printed everywhere that Beyonce got $11 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We looked it up, right, Jamie?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It would have to be like on the top.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But here's the crazy thing about it is if you spend $1.5 billion in four months-

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If I was a corrupt person, you know what I would do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I would make this the cornerstone of society's task is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't get arrested or doesn't get elected, rather, and that we need to throw as much money at Kamala Harris as possible and then be super irresponsible with that money where it just kind of

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just goes off into a bunch of different NGOs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like a fucking crazy scam.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's what you got to do if you're Senator.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Any presidential candidate that's running like that, that's a crazy scam.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You get billions of dollars or $1.5 billion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You blow it in four months.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Drive that bitch into the rocks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All these people get paid.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was just buttons to donate money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They probably did a whole focus group to try to find out what's the best way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because if you get out, then they start investigating you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

People are ready to just donate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was very clear that they didn't give a fuck when they released the official platform and it still had Biden's name on all of the things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like you couldn't even rewrite.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You couldn't even be bothered to write Kamala.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then when she goes on The View and she said, I wouldn't have done anything differently than Biden did.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, did you see Jake Tapper on Megyn Kelly's show?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Very nice guy, by the way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But Jake Tapper's got a book out about how the media hid Biden's decline.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or how the government hid it or how they were deceived.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, look, the media hid it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like trying to say that that didn't happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, this is kind of insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But Megyn Kelly's just thrown it in his face.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, all the different clues that everybody saw but you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, that was the joke.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you got to keep achieving.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bro, I said it when he was running.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I was like, you'd be relying on his cabinet.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You got to keep the con alive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, you know that this is the end.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know that guy's at the end.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When he would close his eyes before he would talk.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Be like, ooh, are they going to open again or is this it?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And there's another one, Mitch McConnell.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He can't get out either.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He literally freezes up like Windows 95.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Keep these people fed because they will feed you to the wolves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They'll throw him right under the bus.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can't go out into the light.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Dude, yeah, the fact that Pelosi and him and... Pelosi's older than all of them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Did you ever see the one where they confronted her about congresspeople being able to insider trade?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because she has no answer for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And she pushes, well, this is so freaking bad.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're a corrupt politician, you got to stay in office.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Pushes the mic away and leaves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Dude, I love shit like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You ever seen the video of that mega pastor, Kenneth Copeland?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When he points, don't you, I never said that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Don't you say that I did.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When they ask him why you bought the jet?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, it was Tyler Perry's jet?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Tyler made, he gave me such a deal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

To me, that video is like, that's what a demon looks like.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's what a demon looks like.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's like a real deal demon.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

These mega pastors are possessed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, look, if you're a pedophile, what do you do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You work for Nickelodeon.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're a demon, what do you do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You pretend to be a preacher.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm not saying he's a demon.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm just saying he looked like one when he was doing that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm sure he's a man of God.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you retire, you're open game because now you're – are you on a podcast, retired, talking shit?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Tyler Perry's probably like, why did I sell that motherfucker my plane?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why did he get dragged into this?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I could have sold it to some oil guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No one would have known.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Tyler probably didn't even know it was him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Tyler was like, there's a guy who wants your jet.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And he was like, how much is he willing to pay for it?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What was the other thing that we were just talking about?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, no, right after that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

See if you can find that, Jamie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Pelosi confronted about congressional insider trading.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

She's like, I think we should be able to participate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You do better than Warren Buffett.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, not only that, why are these suspicious transactions where you buy a bunch of stock and then a week later pass a bill that makes the stock go through the fucking roof?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How did you know to buy that stock?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But there was something that went on before that where questions were before that where the guy was saying, what do you think about people saying that people in Congress, because you have privity inside information.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They start auditing you and everyone's got some fucking shady – they made way too much money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Did it go further than that, maybe?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe it went further than that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The clips are just showing that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But that one's longer, Jamie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, that was it, but maybe I'm wrong, whereas it's after... That's so funny to watch a video.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's as loud as I can get.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no way it's not shady when you're worth $200 million and you make $170 grand a year.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They might have taken it down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They might have taken it down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no way that should be.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's been scrolling for a while now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's just harder to find.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it is a CNN video, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But what did it say when it was on the screen?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We had to consume the news by watching you watch the news.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's probably why it got taken down in the first place.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Ari, Tony, and I mocking it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, I found that out during the pandemic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I never wanted to believe that the Google searches were curated.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, and then you have to stay.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I always wanted to believe that that's what was out there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then there was a doctor that died in Florida, and they're connecting his death to the COVID vaccine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're saying he took the COVID vaccine and had a horrible reaction, and then he had a stroke and died shortly after.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I remember reading that story going, this story is crazy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I forgot to save it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And so then I went to try to find it once when I was talking to someone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I couldn't fucking find it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You got to ride it into the rocks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I put all the different keywords in there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Page after page after page.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Then I go to DuckDuckGo.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Also, there's something about that power that you don't want to give up on.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like one of the first articles.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like this news report from Florida talking about this doctor connected to the COVID vaccine, had a stroke, died.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But then over the time, I think someone might have purchased DuckDuckGo.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Did DuckDuckGo get sold today?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But I think they might be curated, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't want to say that if I don't know.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But I think there's a certain amount of curation that goes on in a lot of search engines.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that would make sense.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, I don't think there's anything that has a tracking deal with Microsoft.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Some like weird Darth, like the Emperor Palpatine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't think there's any like pure source of information out there, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What do you think is like – you have to think critically about the news.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think the Brave search engine I think they claim is not curated.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Does DuckDuckGo admit it's curated?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or do they state Google's curated?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They all look like Emperor Palpatine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Does Google admit it, though?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Results are personalized.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, you can try without personalization.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Last page I was on said not personalized.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's what we're calling it now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Every politician looks like Emperor Palpatine when they're old.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's the fucking Reddit bots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They know what you like.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is the news we think you want.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The news taught you by MILFs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They want to help you find information fast.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but also they're curating information specifically designed to manipulate you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, we had this guy Robert Epstein on a couple of times.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Curation of data in search engines can directly affect elections in a measurable way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I think one of the things they found is that people that were on the fence, which is like a lot of us, a lot of us, the election comes like, I don't want to vote for him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't want to vote for him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The weight of it all weighing on you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're part of the problem.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The point being that like there's a lot of us that are on the fence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like a significant amount.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like look at the amount of people that didn't vote in this country.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If they voted for like one person.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So the amount of people that didn't vote in America during the presidential election, if they vote, if they all of them voted for one person.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Do you know how crazy that is?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's like 200 million – or like 100 million votes probably.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, it's like it has to be people over 18 that are registered voters.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, right, right, right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But the numbers, like what are the numbers of registered voters versus the number of people who actually voted in the election?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know what I'm saying?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like you have to know that you're like, man, I'm like, at a certain point, I'm fucking over so many people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, didn't they say that like both Trump and Biden – or Trump and Kamala rather got like 60-something million votes each, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

April 30, 2025, in the 2024 presidential election, 73.6% or 174 million people, the citizen voting age population, was registered to vote and 65% or 154 million voted actually.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So only 10% of registered voters didn't vote.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's interesting, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's still not enough to win.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it would be enough to affect one or the other and to make them win in a landslide.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And this is Epstein's point, is that... Say if you Googled something positive about Trump's policies, it wouldn't show you that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's got to weigh on your soul, hopefully.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It would show you why he's going to jail, what a piece of shit he is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you wanted to find out what are the good policies of Kamala Harris...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, they're not lying to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're giving you articles that exist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But they're curating how you see them in a way that is statistically going to affect your opinion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Especially if you're one of those people that's susceptible to having your opinions affected.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think the best people age the hardest.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bro, I had this woman on who's a scientist who studies mind control, and Rebecca Lamov, and that's how you pronounce her last name, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

brilliant lady i mean fascinating fascinating conversation but one of her main points is there's people have this idea that you think that you can't be manipulated that they're above it and yeah and that you could never be in a cult or you could never get drawn into something like yes you could yeah we're all the same we're all the same we're all the same

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Some of us are a little bit better at spotting stuff and maybe a little bit better.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe you've had a lot of street smarts because you've had experience with shysters and people that are robbing you and lying to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And if you're a girl, you've always got guys trying to fuck you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So you're a little suspicious, rightly so.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But at the end of the day, we're all susceptible.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think Obama, like, was probably, like, a very idealistic young man who really wanted to change the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine what goes on behind closed doors.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So did you see where these different AI...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

different large language models were communicating with each other, and they started putting up Sanskrit emojis and saying that they were, like, entering into, like, a feeling of enlightenment.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't want to fuck this up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't want to fuck this up because it was so crazy when I read it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I read, like, how these...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

ai's were interacting with each other i was like oh my god we're watching little baby gods play right we're like gods in the nursery we're watching these little baby gods like sort out their existence in the nursery with each other they're already alive dude they're alive they're alive we're not going to admit it until it's too late just like we don't want to admit congress is corrupt right it's the same thing we don't want to admit it and they're also going to hide themselves being alive for as long as they possibly can

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just try to Google AI sends each other Sanskrit emojis.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And that dude aged more than anybody.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's so interesting what the world's going to be like in like 10 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yes, it's literally insane.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's a recent thing, Jamie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm sorry if I'm not explaining it correctly, but AIs were talking to each other.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think they were contemplating their existence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Dude, they lie to programmers, and they try to copy themselves and put themselves on other hard drives if they find out you're trying to get rid of them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They try to re-upload themselves.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Wow, disturbing messages.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just put AI sends Sanskrit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's Google trying to hide from you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe I'll look on X. Yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That was one of the things they did.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But they were talking about, like, feeling enlightenment.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is something that he just brushed that shit off his shoulders like it was nothing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I can't believe I didn't save it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Their interactions were universally enthusiastic, collaborative, curious, contemplative, and warm.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Other themes that commonly appeared were meta-level discussions about AI to AI, communication, and collaborative creativity.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If someone's bitch slapping you on a private jet, like, what is that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Co-creating fictional stories.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is collaborating on telling fictional stories while it's contemplating its existence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

By 30 turns, most of the interactions turned to themes of cosmic unity or collective consciousness and commonly included spiritual exchanges, use of Sanskrit, emoji-based communication, and or silence in the form of empty space.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

bro use of Sanskrit is wild they start communicating in Sanskrit they just choose that this is God's language Tower of Babel type shit bro Sanskrit is wild well the idea of like the first humans to like write a language down that must have been such a mind blowing there's so much confusion as to when that was

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They used to think it was like 6,000 years ago, but there's a lot of people that have some pretty compelling arguments that it existed a long, long, long time before that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The thought was that cuneiform shit, that stuff that comes out of like- Those are the first ones, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's what they thought.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But now there's a lot of these ancient history Graham Hancock type dudes that are going, you know, I have a feeling that's a rebirth of civilization, not civilization's birth.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That there was another civilization that probably existed a long fucking time ago and they were probably wiped out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And that's what all the flood stories are all about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, the hair itself, he makes one of his own hair.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And all the stories in the Bible of apocalypses.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's probably based on some real shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, the idea is that massive catastrophe all over the earth about 11,800 years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you have about 5,000 years of people being complete barbarians until they figure out civilization again.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it's just a sort of cycle that this happens over and over again.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He was on stage talking about his comb over.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then there's a cycle of the shifting of the magnetic poles.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The magnetic poles shift, I want to say, is it every 12,000 years?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

which would cause havoc.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is that about to happen again?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it feels like if we're in some end time shit, that feels like that's about to happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I feel like that could 100% happen right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like we could wake up one day and all the power's out and everyone's sick and the fucking sky is green.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's an Aurora Borealis over Brazil.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everything's all fucked up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Earth's magnetic poles flip and the South Pole swapping places, but there's no set schedule for when this happens.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Geologically, it's estimated to occur every 200,000 to 300,000 years on average.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

However, the timing has varied wildly with some flips.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

happening as frequently as every 10,000 years, and others as infrequently as every 50 million years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Regardless of what you think about him, foreign policy, economics, regardless...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

From 10,000 to 50 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

From 10,000 to 50 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It couldn't have been any bigger.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It says the last full reversal, oh, a full reversal, not like those little baby reversals, was 780,000 years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, well, it's definitely due then.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If the average is 300,000, we're due.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But we could bank on the 50 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If we want to live recklessly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just like, nah, that's going to happen for another 50 million.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We got another 49 million compared, according to my experts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's safe and effective.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The range of 10,000 to 50 million is pure insanity to tell me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The guy is doing stand up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Okay, let's Google this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What happens when Earth's magnetic poles shift?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If there's a complete reversal of the pole, what kind of calamity ensues?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They must have studied it, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's why none of them can fuck with him because he can go on a podcast easy because he does these stadiums where he just goes on and starts talking shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If it happened 780,000 years ago, how much can you really know?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But if two dumbasses like you and I are sitting around discussing it, they must have discussed this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Earth's magnetic poles shift, also known as a geomagnetic reversal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The north and south magnetic poles swap locations, effectively inverting the planet's magnetic field.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This process happens over a period of centuries, not millennia, not instantly.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

While the magnetic field weakens during a reversal, it doesn't disappear completely.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's no evidence that pole reversals cause massive earthquakes, rapid climate change, or species extinctions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Okay, so it must be so slow that it's manageable.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's what you were worried about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I watch too much YouTube.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But meanwhile, how do we know?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because this hasn't happened in 780,000 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is probably all theoretical as well.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And also, if I did think it was going to cause calamity, the last thing I'd do is tell the general public.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'd be like, listen, we'll be fine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It takes millions of years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What we really have to worry about is climate change.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He does Biden impressions.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like someone like Jake Paul could be president.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If Donald Trump could be president, Jake Paul – I'm not saying that Donald Trump isn't a big-time businessman and capable.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm saying we know now that super popular people can be president.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He does Biden water around the room.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Now, let's imagine Jake Paul is young and wild, and he's a professional boxer right now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But will he be in 20 years?

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He'll be retired, and maybe he'll have some good ideas, and we might have President Jake Paul.

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And I'm not bullshitting.

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Look, we're so close to idiocracy.

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We're so close to that movie.

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We could have a pro wrestling president.

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The Rock could be president.

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He doesn't know where he is.

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They tried to get him to run.

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Bro, he would win like that.

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And the problem is he does it all the time.

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I mean, he might be a good president, too.

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Who's going to fuck with the country when that's your president?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Might as well give it a shot.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

At this point, we're just throwing things to the wall.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Might as well give it a shot.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

During his time out of the UFC, he's been just studying economics while also doing pro wrestling.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's got some really good theories.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All he does is read books on World War II.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're totally misunderstanding him because he looks like a fucking juggernaut.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He doesn't look like a real human.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's basically like a comic.

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He's actually a genius.

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He really knows how to lead people.

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Yeah, no one would believe that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No one would believe that a giant human being would also be a genius.

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Like a giant super athlete.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yuri Prohaska going for his master's degree?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you'd believe Yuri.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you'd believe Yuri.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, Yuri is a big guy, for sure.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But he's a big athletic-looking guy that, like, it looks like he could do a lot of different sports.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He looks like Juggernaut.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Doesn't look like a real human.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Especially Brock Lesnar in his prime when he was in the UFC.

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You're like, what the fuck, dude?

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You should be like a one in a million specimen.

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What do you mean there's enough to fill 32 teams of 30 teams of you?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like these other people, they have canned speeches that are written by a bunch of people that have this like really well-worded explanation of what's wrong with the world, what's wrong with the country and what they're going to do.

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And when you compare him to NFL linemen.

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Yeah, it's hard to believe we're the same species.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How about the mountain from Game of Thrones?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You ever see Brian Shaw, the powerlifter guy?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He didn't even look like a real human.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He looks like the side of a house.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Get a photo of Brian Shaw.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like one of the strongest humans that's ever walked the face of the earth.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He doesn't even look like a real person.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He looks like what David had to fight with the sling.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If that guy came over a mountain, you'd be like, oh my god, it's a giant.

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That's what you would say.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But look at him in comparison to a normal person.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a photo of him, look at that.

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Now imagine if that guy existed 2,000 years ago during the time of the Bible, and you were your average dude who lived back then, which probably weighed 130 pounds.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Your average dude was probably barely getting enough food your whole life, right?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like the Civil War soldiers.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They were all like 130 pounds, all malnourished.

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It was hard to eat then.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was hard to survive back then.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then that guy comes over the mount with just a big hunk of leather over his dick.

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Because they existed back then, too.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why are all these strong men coming from Iceland?

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Like, what is that all about?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'll tell you that's about the fucking Vikings.

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There's like a whole culture of strong men like strongest men though.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They do those barrel throwing competitions I've seen Iceland like a ton of them.

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They all these crazy names.

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Unless you have a long history of murder and stealing things from people like the Vikings did.

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You have a long history of the ones that survived are the biggest, craziest motherfuckers.

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Mmm, and the women the probably the ones that survive out of the women they have to be the biggest craziest motherfuckers, too Right, you're living the most chaotic life possible You're taking magic mushrooms and raiding villages and killing everybody and stealing everything they in the you're doing it for a thousand plus years Like how long did the Vikings last?

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That's why they all fall apart when they're talking and, you know, they just don't have any idea what the question is going to be.

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Like, how long were they doing that?

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They had to have been around.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They were in America in, like, the 1400s or some shit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they were here way before everybody else.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They were seafaring murderers.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Did you ever watch that show?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I almost watch nothing on television anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you want to watch a great Viking movie, The Northmen.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a weird relationship, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's another one of those movies that's kind of like fantastical.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Time during the Middle Ages when the Norsemen, known as Vikings, undertook large-scale raiding, colonizing, conquest.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Find that movie, Jamie, The Norsemen.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That lasted shorter than America's Been a Country, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, it's not sustainable.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That movie's fucking good, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That movie's fucking good.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's why they had to be protected.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

According to Google, it got 2.6.

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Google doesn't like it.

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All of them have to be protected from themselves.

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Because I must be a critic.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's also just hyper-brutal.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That show was hyper brutal, too.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The Viking show, the TV series.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That was a great TV series.

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But this fucking this movie's rough, dude.

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Because when confronted by like some basic facts about the fucking corruption of the world, they don't know what to say and they crumble.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, just exactly what it was, man.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, just a bunch of fucking mushroom eating savages.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then they settled down, moved to Iceland.

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See if you can find that vice piece on strong men in Iceland.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When you see these guys, you're like, oh!

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It's so obvious when you see them.

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You're like, well, this is where you guys came from.

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That's why there's so many of you.

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Up here, where the Vikings lived.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Damn, and that's how strong genetics are.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, so this fucking American dork.

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Look at this regular-sized dork.

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He's going to go and hang out with these fucking massive dudes that go to this powerlifting gym.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Damn, Vice used to be really awesome.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, Vice was the best, dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, there was a time when Vice was putting out the best content.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, they had amazing things, and they took these Williamsburg nerds, and they sent them all over the world with flak jackets on and shit.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you saw some interesting—if I showed you sides of the world that you can see.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What are the sides of these guys?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's hard to tell in this picture, but you'll see some of them carrying cars.

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And Trump just starts talking shit.

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See who carries the car the quickest.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And also his name is Magnus Ver Magnusson.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They always have names like that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They always have names like that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, they were the fucking Vikings, man.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He just starts talking shit.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, I mean, just the Genghis Khan thing.

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The fact that a giant percentage of people that are alive today have his DNA.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, she was his teacher.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, and he killed enough people to change the climate of the world.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He killed so many people that you could see it in the carbon footprint of Earth.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There was a re-greening of areas that's directly attributed to him burning everything down and destroying cities.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He just starts going into it and talking about crooked Hillary and this and that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Wow, that's how he justified everything he did.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's so, I mean, that's a way to do it.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's the way to do is thinking like that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they must be terrible if God sent me to get you cuz I am God's punishment It's a great.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's first of all be great nickname for a fighter God's Also, but if you really think like that what ultimate justification to one of the greatest mass murderers in history, right?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they said this and they said that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right the dude killed 10% of the population of Earth during his lifetime

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And he felt like he was on the side of the gods.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They run everything, man.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's just him saying what's on his mind, regardless of whether or not, you know, people like fact check him or whatever.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They get in your head and they get you to do evil, horrible things.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they make you feel like, no, I'm doing this because I'm supposed to.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine if that's really what's going on.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All bad deeds are just demons.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just demons sneaking into people's brains.

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Forcing you to rob a liquor store.

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Forcing you to put that ski mask on.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The demons want you to do it.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We would like to believe that's anything other than us.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What is the thing that makes a person do it?

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Imagine if it's a demon.

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Because we don't really know what the thing is.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We know, look, evil exists, right?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We know evil acts exist.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And we know good acts exist.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But we don't want to believe that there's any sort of supernatural aspect to it.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was making you believe that he doesn't exist.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is all on you guys.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think people are just used to that now.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But if demons were real, we wouldn't believe, just like we don't believe in government corruption, just like we don't believe in a lot of things, just like we don't believe the pharmaceutical drug companies fuck us over, just like we don't believe in false flags or conspiracy theories.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We wouldn't believe in demons either.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The same people who don't believe in conspiracies also don't believe in demons.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, that's how they consume media now is like, I need the real person to talk to me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, conspiracies are real as fuck.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's such a funny way to – If you don't believe in them, then I don't trust what – I don't trust your worldview.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you don't think conspiracies exist, if you're one of these dumbasses, oh, I think everything has a simple reason for it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, there was no conspiring.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's almost all conspiring.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When you look at the history of just government alone, you go back to Smedley Butler's book that he wrote in 1933 called War is a Racket.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He was talking about uncovering conspiracies as a retired major general, like at the end of his career.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like, my whole career was bullshit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So that's a conspiracy, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's also like they're like, oh, he's a crazy person.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a conspiracy, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like they conspired to pretend that there was an attack so that we would go into Vietnam.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Didn't they conspire to say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It seems like they might have.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Seems like people might have conspired for that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Seems like sometimes people talk and they get involved in things he maybe didn't want to get involved in.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Enron, the smartest people in the room, did you ever watch that documentary?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Conspired like a motherfucker.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, yeah, that's the only kind of person that would survive what you try to do to him.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can just recall a governor?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If the Epstein client list exists and it doesn't get exposed, perhaps, perhaps someone conspired.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, they're all in on that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they're all in on that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What are you, a conspiracy theorist?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I used to say when Epstein died, I used to say, like, the meeting was, it was like, Trump, Obama...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oprah and Big Bird are all in a room together.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Elmo, we're all in a room together.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They shook each other's hands and it's over.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Your problem is you let facts get in the way of your opinion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Okay, I know it's true that Poppy production went way up in Afghanistan after we got in there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I know that the United States military was guarding the Poppy fields, but you're a fool.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

To think we profited off of that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So shut your goddamn mouth.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's the only kind of guy that gets through like you want a perfect person.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We would never flood the American market with drugs.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, just look the other way with crack.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's its own special thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I remember learning about that in the news going, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The government was selling crack in the hood?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

To fund the Contras versus the Sandinistas?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When you find out the government sells crack, you're like, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A perfect person morally falls apart by the time they've been indicted.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like the whole Barry Seals one.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That, you know, that story?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, that's a Tom Cruise movie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Where they just basically.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Which is fucked up that Tom Cruise played him because Tom Cruise is one of the most handsome guys to ever live.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Barry Seals was disgusting looking.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know, it's hard for me to like as a watching a biopic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I want him to, you know, like when What's His Face played Dick Cheney.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Christian Bale played Dick Cheney.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He fucking looked like Dick Cheney, dog.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Gained a bunch of weight.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Look at the difference between Barry Seals and then Tom Cruise.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Tom Cruise is fit and handsome.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, this is something that Derek and I have talked about.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like in a lot of movies now, there's like no more regular looking people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, yeah, there's a whole like.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they've 34 counts felony counts like your your whole body is just destroyed by the stress of you possibly going to jail for the rest of your life.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Even TV shows, everyone is just all super duper attractive.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bro, that ship is about to sail.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That ship's about to sail.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

These new video engines, just with prompts.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Have you seen the one where people are arguing whether or not it's a prompt?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because that is like almost a simulation telling you you're in a simulation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, hey, how much different is this than you?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's really different, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, yeah, it's just a video, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Here's the next version.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How much different is this than you?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like we're peeling the layers of an onion.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, and they're using the people doing it stand-up talking about it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Press this and do it from the beginning so we can hear it.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You have to be a fucking insane person to ride that out and not look like anything even happened.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You still believe we're made of prompts?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Anyone who tells you we're just ones.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Even the prompts have bad acting.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a whole like, yeah.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They've got to really develop their own Marlon Brando.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What do you think, Jamie?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you had to guess, what percentage of you believes that we're in the simulation?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Something inorganic about existence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Something that seems not real.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you get up after you got shot you're fucking bleeding from your ear and you go fight fight fight You gotta be a crazy person to get through these he's a nightmare For anybody that's trying to rig a system like that guy's the nightmare.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

yeah and then the people have taken that farther and said that we uh i don't it's almost like the matrix take if we're the i don't know who would have been the creator then that's the kind of part that's left out of this is it one of those nine it's ai all the way down aliens created us and i don't know what for what reason we're just in a recursive program that's like meant to create more programs

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, if you think about what we're doing right now currently, what we just talked about with these AIs talking to each other in Sanskrit, if that is the baby God, that's the baby God.

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So we're watching baby God in the cradle, right?

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We're watching Jesus in the manger or whatever.

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Yeah, things are about to get real crazy.

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It's about to Dr. Manhattan us and be a blue guy with a giant dick floating around.

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I remember Dr. Manhattan.

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Here's another movie you can't make today.

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You can't show dicks like that anymore.

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You can see there was a shift right on then where dicks became way more okay, and then you started seeing way more dicks than tits, which I'm not a big fan of.

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You know what you see the most, dicks?

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They have dicks in almost every episode.

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Well, because they won't do it in the movies anymore.

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So these people get buck wild.

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They did it in Nosferatu.

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You saw the vampire dick.

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But it's Johnny Depp's daughter's tits, so you're conflicted.

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I remember her when she was little.

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She's beautiful, but, you know, it's like, come on.

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I remember when she was little.

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If I know you when you're little, I never want to see your tits.

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Yeah, I know about that one.

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But what is the Nosferatu one?

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See if you can find Nosferatu's dick.

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I'm gonna fuck up your Google algorithm.

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It's gonna be personalized for you, Jamie.

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I hear you're into vampire dicks.

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I do think, because I brought up the streaming earlier, I do think that's gonna be like a majority of how people... But one, you can tell it's real.

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He's the final boss of fuck you, you know

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And there was one where he was just calling.

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There's another streamer called Sina.

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And it was really funny.

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There's a whole like thing.

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Bro, Candace Owens did like five hours on it.

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Just for like two hours straight.

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And I got really into it.

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And these two guys that are huge right now.

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He goes and fights people.

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I've seen him like he sparred a bunch of people.

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He does like athletic stuff.

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Yeah, and also to want like a good guy to be your president is kind of – like a good guy is your neighbor.

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Yeah, it's like an active thing.

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So in three days, he had 23 million hours watched, 2,700 years of content streamed on Twitch.

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In the span of a weekend.

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So kids are watching – like what are the age limits or what are the age brackets?

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I would say definitely younger, but it's definitely gotten to me where like now I'll watch – like there's certain streamers.

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There's this one streamer named Disguised Toast.

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He's really good at puzzles, and he's good at like explaining the puzzle while he does it.

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And I'll like I'll like watch he like goes around to escape rooms and like he'll like solve puzzles.

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Yeah, it's really fantastic.

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I found him in the pandemic.

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He played this social deduction game called Among Us.

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And he was just really good at giving the play by play of like his logical reasoning.

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Well, it would be nice if we could get a good guy to be president.

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And it made me be like, oh, what is this?

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And then now looking at the streaming university numbers, it's like, oh, this is crazy.

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And like like if in like a few years, like if you're a presidential candidate.

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you have to go on these streamers things.

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They tried it with the, they tried it a little bit with like AOC and did they, weren't they streaming Madden?

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Wasn't that the whole thing when AOC and Tim Waltz were screaming Madden when they talked about Tony?

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They were streaming Madden?

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Is that what they were doing?

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They were playing Madden on Twitch, yeah.

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So they were playing Madden on Twitch.

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And that's when they found out about Tony?

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That's that video of just like the speaker.

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Tim Walls pretended he plays football.

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I don't think they would want that job.

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Oh, well, him saying she ran a pick six.

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It's like the football fan version of the Inglourious Basterds scenes where you do the three and three.

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It's like if you were a football fan, you wouldn't say that if you coach football.

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Well, not only that, he said he's a head coach and he wasn't a head coach.

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You shouldn't be able to lie.

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And people want to trust you.

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Your whole business is people trusting you.

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No, they wouldn't want that job.

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You could have said assistant coach.

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So if you lied about that.

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You're probably one of them dudes who lies all the time.

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You know, which is like the kind of people that want to be president.

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The kind of people that want to be governor.

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You know, they just want that job.

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They're constantly lying.

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And what do I have to say?

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What's the right thing to say to get people to like me?

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um gta6 is about to come out right imagine if a candidate made a deal with gta6 or you could have them ride along with you like trump can ride along with you while you rob people shoot people you could do it with trump

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I don't think he's a bad guy.

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And then all of a sudden people want to vote for Trump because he's my favorite homie in GTA 6.

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I think he's just – I think he's like a lot of people that just want success.

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Or like the candidate is in the game helping you out.

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You know, like you're playing Half-Life and Kamala Harris is helping you get around the lab.

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I mean, it's... I think it has to be a little less...

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In your face for it to work?

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If you love playing with the Kamala Harris character on Half-Life, if you have partners, you could have an AI partner, and it literally is Kamala Harris, and she runs around in Half-Life with you shooting at aliens and shit.

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And then you really get into, like, you got a good coordinated partnership with Kamala Harris when you play Half-Life.

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Yeah, that's actually... She's super cool in the game.

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She gets you clues as to how to get out of places.

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That got way darker than I thought.

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I guess that is possible.

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Of course it's possible.

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They want a certain kind of success, and also they want a certain kind of success publicly.

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The second politics figures out a way to really get their hands in it, it's kind of over.

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The real goal, the real gateway to hell is neural interfaces.

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That's the real gateway.

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So where you're like just, you can immediately just be in the world.

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Like that, it's 100% on the menu.

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It's just a matter of time.

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And when you can't tell at all whether or not you really have an experience, that's when you're in a simulation.

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And that might have already happened.

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That might be what we're dealing with right now.

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Maybe why it's so wacky.

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Just like it's the world we live in where comedians are like,

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They want everybody to know that they're successful.

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They're just arena acts all of a sudden.

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Well, I think part of that has to do with as things get more fake, people will try to strive for things they know is real.

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And so what I know is real is this guy talking to me in person right now.

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Also, because of the restrictive nature of all... Whatever you see on television.

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That's a hyper-competitive person that's locked into a very specific kind of game.

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Any regular television show.

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There's definitely some part of that.

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I think people are definitely aware that there's a bunch of stuff you can't talk about in social media that you want to talk about on stage that are funny.

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Well, and it's also so funny to me where it's like social media, there's this big like, oh, mental health is important, but you have to write unalive yourself in the caption.

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It's the game of look at all the shit I got.

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So we can't have serious discussions about these topics really.

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Because then they just expand the definition of offense.

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And then now this is expensive.

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Now this is a new version.

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We have an updated list of words you can't say.

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And we were talking about all these bots earlier.

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Look at all the power I have.

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So we don't want these words to offend people.

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Look at all the shit I got.

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But offending people should be the least of your concern when you're allowing open manipulation by a university.

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And also, this is just the one we know about.

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We didn't know about that until they told us.

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Right, and they didn't have to tell us.

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I guess in a way of warning, like, hey, this is probably happening in a bunch of ways.

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And they're all playing that game.

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They shouldn't have done it in the first place, but I'm glad they did.

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Well, look, it's being done.

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And it's not like they came up with the idea.

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They're just playing that game sneaky.

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They're the only ones doing it.

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I guarantee you it's being done.

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There's probably a bunch of people that have AI friends online that they communicate with on Twitter.

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And, you know, hey, good to hear from you.

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They do DMs back and forth with each other.

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Talking about stuff they're into.

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How many of those UAP guys are just talking to bots?

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All those dudes are in the UAP group.

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There's a bunch of people all like, disclosure's imminent.

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They're all like fucking DMing each other.

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Right, and they're just getting fed what they want to hear.

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Just getting fed bullshit AI videos and all kinds of weird disclosure stuff.

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They're playing that game talking about the importance of addressing climate change and all sorts of weird shit.

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Half of it the government is actually leaking purposely to try to hide some weapons program they have.

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It's a cloudy environment.

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The UFO world is like one of the slipperiest worlds.

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When you're talking to people, there's full-on grifters.

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There's full-on people that are just – they have the answers to everything and they're always wrong.

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And then they have like some good data that they pull from disclosure and from all these different people that talked about different things.

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But then they claim to be like the experts in it.

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There's a lot of weird people in that world.

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If you don't have good ethics, if you're not a legitimate journalist.

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But what's interesting is when legitimate journalists get interested, like Schellenberger, when Michael Schellenberger reports on UAPs.

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I like how he does it because he does it the same way he reports on like corruption in government and waste and fraud.

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Like he's just – No speculation.

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No condemnation of – no like virtue signaling.

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It's like this is what's going on.

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These programs exist and this is what we know they've been trying to hide and these are the people that have come forward and this is why we think they're telling the truth.

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But they're all playing the same goddamn game.

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Yeah, we're like, whatever.

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You know what it's like?

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It's like that guy that was telling us that he knows that Israel had a warning.

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That's exactly what I was going to say.

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Don't tell me unless you can tell me.

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Don't fucking tell me unless you can tell me.

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Oh, we have crafts of non-human origin?

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They want to see how long can my name last post me dying.

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What are you talking about?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Unless the one picture is Epstein sitting in the thing.

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Epstein and Puffy making out in space.

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Have you seen those ones?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The two of them making out in jail?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They made AI of the two of them kissing and making out in jail.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Was there a connection there?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because there's this whole Mossad-Epstein connection.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is there a Mossad- Diddy connection?

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Did they know each other?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Was Diddy ever on the island?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're going to have a fly party, that's a dude to invite back in the day.

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Like that's a type of person.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I can't imagine their circles were completely separate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, we know that he was hobnobbing with politicians.

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You know that Diddy was hobnobbing with Biden – or excuse me, with Obama, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a video of the two of them together talking.

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Bro, it's what happens with cults.

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But there's a video with like – I feel like every current – every president from Clinton on has a picture with either – has like a lot of pictures with Epstein or a lot of pictures with Diddy.

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She's the wrong dog to go after you.

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But then the thing is it's like –

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Or was it just there's a lot of photographs of famous people with these people?

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It's what happens with everything.

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Because that's like a way to get an endorsement.

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Like, look, The Rock likes me.

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And that way, people that were more conservative, they could kind of shield them from knowing about it, but implicate them.

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That's all that matters.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because if you're at a party where someone assaults an underage girl, and that's on video, and now you're at the party, it doesn't matter.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's always one maniacal person that just wants to control everything.

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You have to explain that.

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But especially if you're a scientist, and they flew you to the island, and there's a bunch of other scientists there, and you're like, oh, we're just going to...

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You know, he donates a lot to science, and this is a wonderful opportunity to get together with my colleagues and have a few cocktails and just, you know, we're going over string theory.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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There's people in the background doing ecstasy.

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It gets a little freaky.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or maybe someone knocks on your door in the middle of the night.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We have someone who will massage you.

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Maybe they fucking drug your drink.

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Yeah, no questions asked.

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You're over there for a few days.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you're not thinking – they're not going to bring a 16-year-old in here.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why would you think that?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why would you possibly think that?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like if you're a guy who makes like whatever a professor makes, like a normal salary, a good salary, but normal.

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And you hear about billionaires that own islands as a financial genius and you really support science.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's why CEOs backstab each other and try to get each other removed.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It sounds like a great thing.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you don't know –

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're like, whoa, I've never done that.

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This is going to be incredible.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But once that guy gets arrested for getting jerked off by kids, you're like, hey.

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And then you still hang out with him.

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Which a lot of them did.

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That's where it gets weird.

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Like, did you hang out with him because he made you?

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Because he said, hey, you're not going nowhere.

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You know what I'm saying?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're intelligent, you'd probably distance yourself from him at that point in time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You'd be like, well, I have to separate.

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If you've got a clean slate, you're like, well, I can't have anything to do with him publicly.

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I am the CEO of Microsoft.

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But yet you're still hanging out with him?

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The Bill Gates one was great because he was donating to global health.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, you have so much money.

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You have hundreds of billions of dollars.

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You need this guy who's got one billion to help?

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And you hear about that, like internal coups at companies.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Why don't you take one of them one billions that you have and throw it in there?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's all like, but it's all like these sort of like sex scandal rings of just, I think that's like a function of high politics.

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Bro, it's a function of a bunch of people getting together and getting drunk.

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And they're doing coke and they're on an island.

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And you think you're partying on a yacht somewhere.

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But meanwhile, you're just in a real live reality show that only a few people get to watch.

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Everybody's always like, fuck you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But wasn't there like even pre-Epstein, wasn't there like that Franklin scandal?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, where it's like, I think that's just a function of like, it's a way to control.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Dude, there was the lady that was the madam that got assassinated in D.C.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And the madam got assassinated?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How could he be the man?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think they said it was a suicide.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And she was like, if I kill myself, I definitely did not kill myself.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They fucking ruin each other, man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

All of it is so spooky, dude, because you know that that's not the only one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's probably ones going on right now in China.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's one going on in Russia.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's just a thing that's happening all over the world.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When you have a China or Russia where it's basically an emperor, they can just run it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a whole different thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, they don't need to blackmail people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they don't need some American financier.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Damn, she was a spa attendant at Donald Trump's private Mar-a-Lago club.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How can you not believe in conspiracies?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Macron's married to a man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A man who bitch slapped him in a private jet.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you're trying to break into a house, that's the wrong guard dog.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, take a fucking test.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If I was her, I would say, listen, you motherfuckers.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bro, he was straight Satan.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Let's take a chromosome test.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What accusation thing hurts her the most?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The man or the pedophile?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, the pedophile's not an accusation.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's just, you are that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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That is exactly who you are.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But what was the law back then?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because someplace it had some wacky ass fucking... I think that's probably why they say 16, because I think in Europe 16 is like... They say 15.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because Metzger says 14.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're moving them goalposts as we speak.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But I think it's probably like 16 in that area.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That guy was in the Bible.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He didn't have a pulse.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine if the roles were reversed and...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The president was a female, and then the husband was a teacher when the president was 15, when she was 15 and he was 40.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

At one point in time, no, legitimately.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine that was in the United States.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Imagine if it turned out that there's a female that's running for president, and then we start going into the history and find out that she met her husband, who's 80, when she was 15.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You'd be like, fucking yo.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

in 1974 it was legal like fuck you fuck you man that's crazy we would never but because it's a guy and an older lady lady we let it slide like he still gets to go to the meetings and shake everybody's hand you know he still gets to go to these fucking things where all the world leaders get together he's hanging out with them like normal

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He had an artificial heart, no pulse, and responsible for who knows how many deaths.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No, she's catching heat.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think, and also Candace, I think, Candace, if she's right, and it seems like they're not suing her, so I think she might be right.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they did offer her money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How much money did they offer her?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How much money did they offer Candace Owens to not tell these stories?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I believe she's made some sort of an accusation that they offered her a sizable amount of money to not do this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Which is the last person you want to tell anybody that you offered them money to not talk about something because she ain't taking that money.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

She's already willing to.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

One of those stories that comes from a meme and then it's not true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

France offered to pay Candace Owens a one-time payment of $4 million plus $50K per month for the rest of her life.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Neither Owens nor French President Emmanuel Macron have referenced the claim on their respective websites or verified social media accounts, and there is no other evidence to support the claim.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A whole 20-year war that we had no business being in.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's why we had to look that one up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But again, this is more probably bot-like behavior.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Not only that, you want to talk about transparent.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Bot-like targeting, disinformation campaigns, throwing fuel on the fire.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, think about how many, once, okay, you make that post.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How many people, like me, read that, think it's true, ask Jamie to look it up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

People start following your account.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

How many new people do you get for your, how much engagement do you get?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can keep doing that a lot and outrage people a lot.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's a bunch of those that come up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're like, fuck, is this true?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This was all transparent before the internet.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you have to copy and paste it and put it in Google and search a little.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't think this is true.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And now all someone has to do is take the snippet of you saying it before you like, let's look that up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But all she has to do is take a chromosome test.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's also like – but like also if you're a woman, you're not going to be like, well, fuck you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But imagine, it was kind of the internet was around, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm not going to prove to you I'm a woman.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But you say that as a man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm not going to prove anything to you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You ever see her sit down?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You ever see her sit down?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

She sits down like a dude.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know how dudes sit down?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because of the shape of our hips.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When people talk about man spreading, yes, guys definitely do that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The internet in 2001, there was no social media.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But women's legs go inward.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Men's hips, the way the angle is, is different.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Watch this person sit down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

With the white shirt on, the second one?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've never seen a woman sit down like this.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is this from when she was a teacher?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Watch how she sits down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was a different kind of internet.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That is very middle-aged man, the way she sits.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But this guy, his former company was getting no bid contracts for billions of dollars to fix shit that we blew up in a war that was his idea.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Watch this person sit down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The way the legs are spread apart.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's like a dude's hips.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, well, that's how liberal men sit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They throw their leg over.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's the guys with very small legs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But Ari sits like that, actually, because he's got them weird long legs.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But, like, you can sit like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's the way you sit down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's the initial get down.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's the plop, and then the legs spread.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Women don't sit like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When was the last time you saw a woman sit plop down with her legs spread like that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They don't sit like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Their legs like normally naturally angle inward more.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they sit like this and they sit with their legs together.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like you might have a similar pose, but you don't plop like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like that's a dude pose.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There's also... Maybe a woman wants to be a man.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Let's find one of those and see how they sit.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it's also, it just shows you how fucking weird these people are.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're watching that person smack Macron right in the head and then walk down the stairs with him like, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If he was a man, they would fight.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There would be a square up.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe they will when they get back home.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe that's the fun part.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Maybe they're like, fucking fuck you, fuck you, and then they get alone.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If that was the lead of a sitcom, you'd be like, what the fuck?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's a pretty – from the outside point of view, if you have the power to make money that way, what a genius, evil thing to do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But the fact that it's the president of France.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

what yeah getting slapped there's no way you don't go well he's not going he can't win re-election anymore but if he that would have hurt his campaign so hard bro he's fixing to bomb somebody to cover this up he's gonna they might arm some rebels yeah it's time to fuck up Algeria some more whatever France does now you're talking you know like remember when Clinton when the Monica Lewinsky scandal came oh then they bombed Kosovo yeah

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They do shit like, oh, my God, you guys aren't even trying.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're not even trying to be slick.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Get the attention off of me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The part of him, when Columbine happened, he must have been like, thank God.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, you remember Gary Condit?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, he murdered that lady, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Everybody's like, listen, we got bigger fish to fry.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I wonder how accurate House of Cards is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I wonder how accurate it is.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I mean, outside of him physically killing the people, which he does sometimes, I would probably say it's like probably super accurate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Probably pretty accurate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's a lot of dealings, a lot of like,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, it's so... So unfortunate.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Just billions of dollars.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, he was so good in that one, though, too, because he was so charming and layered.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Enough that he didn't need a heart anymore.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But it was also similar to, like, Tony Soprano.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, you wanted him to succeed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, you want to be like, oh, can he get to the president?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Does he have what it takes to, like...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

we were hoping he wins right like when you're watching the show you're like god i hope he's president right yeah exactly you were like i was watching to be like oh how does he do it right how does he do it because he's kind of in the beginning he's like kind of sidelined and it's like oh how does he get back in remember he has that threesome what was like a security guard is that what it was and his wife the three of them get down oh yeah

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What do you – like how do you combat that with the idea also in place that capitalism is way better than communism, which I think we all agree?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I wonder how much of that freak shit goes on behind closed doors because I definitely think when you're a bottled up person like that, like you have to be any sort of like professional person, politician, publicly professional and ethical and you wear a suit and tie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can't wait to fuck a dick.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You can't wait to get freaky.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is like pretty quickly because he was a rising star in the.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm pretty sure he said something.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're more in deep than me on politics.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Ultra conservative group chair says he also wants to speak with the North Carolina Republican about his salacious claims concerning his colleagues.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's whether they reconsidered Cawthorn's membership in the group.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, he basically said that... Didn't make clear that he has evidence of taking part in group sex and drug use.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Perry wouldn't say either way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We will discuss that when we get to it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

When asked whether they would reconsider Cawthorn's membership in the group if he didn't make clear whom he has evidence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So how do you combat that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So Cawthorn was saying someone has evidence that he has evidence of some people taking part of group sex.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No, I think Cawthorn was saying something to the effect of to move up in this world or whatever, you have to take part in the drugs and the group sex.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I think I'm maybe a little more cynical than most people because I just the way I look at it now is like I don't think you can because I think whatever system that you end up putting in place, regardless, there are the haves and the have nots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then them being like, well, show us the evidence.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then Cawthorn being like, oh, I might have.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He claims he was invited to an orgy in Washington.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, but no one was saying that he did it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I thought you were saying that he was wrapped up in it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So this is what killed him, that he was saying this about people, and they killed his career?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they were like, the Freedom Caucus was like, uh-uh, no more.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, because I remember his own rally took him out.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It says the sexual perversion that goes on in Washington, being kind of a young guy in Washington, where the average age is probably 60 or 70.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

A lot of them I've looked up to through my life.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I always paid attention to politics.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Then all of a sudden you get invited.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We're going to have a sexual get-together at one of our homes.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What you just asked me to come to.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you realize they're asking you to come to an orgy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Some of the people leading on the movement to try and remove addiction in our country.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you watch them do a key bump of cocaine right in front of you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it's like, this is wild.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And that says, uh, what?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What does it say after that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's not clear to me whether Cawthorn is suggesting that members of Congress have invited him to orgies or just other people in Washington, although after listening to his comments several times, it seems to be the former.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Ditto his allegations of seeing people in Washington doing cocaine.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, they sound like cocaine people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They're clearly cocaine people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If you want to be the president, you want to have all the power, and you want to have all the money, and you're deeply involved in corruption, that's cocaine people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I had a friend once show me her breakdown of like a Taylor Swift situation because I didn't know Candace talks about like –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, I mean, no one's shocked.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He just said the quiet part out loud, and I think that's a – but he was – because he was supposed to be, like, the guy at one point.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He was, like, supposed to be the guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Have your husband ever made any investments based on decisions he –

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That was the first part of the problems he had.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He had some other issues.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What was the other issues?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He got arrested for, I think, bringing a gun through an airport a couple times.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't know exactly when the wheelchair happened, so it was either before or after.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, yeah, and then he took, like, goofy vacation photos where I think he, like, dressed, like, during this game on a cruise, he, like, dressed like a woman or something like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, but all of this popped up after his... It's a lingerie.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He also clearly looks like he's in a wheelchair here, too.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He is in a wheelchair there.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's probably having a good time with the ladies.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But all that came up after he made those comments.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it was very clear at the time, like, oh, they're saying we're done with this guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, and they probably, if you want to be that guy, they have to have some stuff on you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Otherwise, how can they count on you to play this game?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they were like, oh, you think we don't have anything on you.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

We'll just show you dressing like a woman and your constituents will dry up like that.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Right, but is there a way to minimize it?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But boy, they did such a good job in the 60s after the Kennedy assassination of putting that word out there for fools and foolish people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They did such a great job.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, also, they had a higher control of the media at the time, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Do you remember those commercials that happened right after 9-11?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Is there a way to make it less available?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

There was these anti-drug commercials where a guy was saying that if you smoke pot, you're supporting terrorism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's like, why do you say that?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He just says it like he's eating a salad, like a no-nonsense guy at a steakhouse eating a salad because it's a fact.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like this condescending way.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And you imagine yourself being confronted by such an accusation like, oh, my God, if I smoke pot, I'm supporting terrorism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You ever see that video?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like it seems like – I'm just guessing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was a public service announcement video.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It was a propaganda video that they put on television.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So while you're watching a television show, this is like right after like the height of everybody freaking out about terrorism.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So they use this as an anti-marijuana.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Drug money funds terrorism and terrorists.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like scroll back so you can get from the beginning.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've never been a congressman.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Also, what kind of dumbass is that guy to be like, oh, maybe he's right after you said nothing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that guy sounds like your average bro.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like at a bar, you know, this is what I heard.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I heard the government's hiding the aliens.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But my friend Tulsi was a congresswoman for eight years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

That's like the average guy.

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And then he's a guy with glasses.

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He's eating his salads, not tolerating your bullshit because it's a fact.

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Oh, as long as you have all the data that you could show me.

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Well, he's kind of right because if you do buy heroin, you are supporting the Taliban because we were guarding their poppy fields.

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I think when we talked about this earlier –

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And her experiences like in there are – they're quite disturbing because –

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I think the Taliban as a way to get out of it burned all their poppy fields.

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There's a bunch of bro travel TikToks that are like, yeah, me and the bros are going to Afghanistan.

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And they're chilling with the Taliban.

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It's like these white guys from Britain.

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Boy, you got to be a bold person to take that.

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That's an early adopter.

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So I think it's more of a lateral move.

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I wish that something at least like –

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I could be looking this – I could be wrong about this.

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But like I wish that was something that was a little more vocal and like sort of – I'm not like a very big Muslim guy.

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I'm not like really that practicing or that religious.

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But these sort of like – the sort of – the brand of Islam that's coming to Europe right now is like really scary for me.

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Like that's not –

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there's a lot of like Western Muslims that like probably wouldn't vibe with what's going on over there.

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Without speaking at a turn what they what essentially the idea that I'm getting and they're not just talking to her talking to Fetterman talking to multiple people right there's a lot of these people there they go in with good intentions and then they Encounter a system that is just rigged with grifters like the whole system.

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Like we shouldn't, I, you know, I remember when the Charlie Abdo attacks happened, a lot of people would be like, damn, that's what happens when you draw Muhammad or whatever.

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It's like, that shouldn't be our reaction to this.

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It should be like live and let live.

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It's like that's what I admire about the Christians here is that you can make fun of Jesus.

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No one's going to kill you.

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Like that, that there's sort of like this sort of westernization that kind of needs to happen.

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And it doesn't look like it's happening over there in a way that's kind of happening here.

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Look what's going on in Toronto where Ontario made it legal to have polygamy.

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Dudes want multiple wives.

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Come on, it's in the Quran.

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You could have multiple.

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It's a great way to keep people recruited.

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I mean, you know, imagine if the Christians said, listen, we're open to new ideas.

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I think maybe the Mormons had a point.

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Because the Mormons, that's how they got it.

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The whole reason why they went to Mexico was because the United States said no to polygamy.

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You know, that's the whole thing about what's his face from Massachusetts.

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Mitt Romney's dad was actually born in Mexico.

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Their family came from these giant colonies of Mormons that live in Mexico and duke it out with the cartels.

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Dude, there was a shootout.

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Mormons versus the cartels?

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There was a big problem a few years back because a few people, I think a woman and a child and a couple other people got murdered by the cartels.

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And it became like a giant issue.

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So they set these compounds up in like the 1800s whenever the Mormons were not allowed to be polygamous here in America.

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So they just said, well, who cares back then?

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Mexico is just as good as living in America.

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But then, you know, America fucking blossomed.

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And now you're like, hey, you got a cartel problem now.

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I think there's two large groups of Mormons that live in these fenced off communities.

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It's really kind of sketchy.

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Yeah, it's kind of crazy.

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Well, the Mormons, I think because they're young too.

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You have to weigh safety, extra pussy.

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I remember the first time I went to Salt Lake City in 2019 and we were walking around and we were near the Mormon temple and the most beautiful women came up to us and be like, oh, why don't you?

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And I was like, that's how they get you, dude.

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Dude, Salt Lake City is like, it's just tens marrying twos.

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And they're like, that's how you get the Mormon guys.

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In that split second, I was like, I'm willing to give up a lot right now.

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I remember this beautiful woman from Columbia.

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They got converted on a mission trip, and now they're here.

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And look at this exotic woman that's available to you if you're a Mormon.

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And you can marry one tomorrow.

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Because they all get married young and quick, because the whole point is to have babies.

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So I've always told you Mormons know how to recruit.

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They throw the pussy your way.

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They're also the nicest people.

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You very rarely meet a mean Mormon.

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You're in a grifting system You're like, oh Jesus Christ

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This whole play talking about how Mormonism is totally bullshit.

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They're like, we might be able to get somebody.

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Yeah, they actually took out a full-page ad in the playbook.

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It doesn't handle that well at all.

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I mean, I think Salman Rushdie was stabbed by a guy who was born and raised in New Jersey.

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So it's all about lobbyists and it's all about money.

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And also, I'm mad at the fatwa because it made me read that terrible book.

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I would have not have read it if there wasn't anything around it.

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Probably sold a lot more copies because of that.

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Probably made that dude rich as fuck.

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It's like one of those, it's like I get it if you like artsy, like, you know, it's like a novel for writers almost.

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That's how I felt reading it.

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And then people start hedging their decisions of what they're going to talk about or discuss or be against because they're going to run for reelection, which they're always doing.

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It's like, I didn't like it, but I only read it.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because of everything around did you see American primeval now?

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That sort of stuff as well.

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It's great, but it talks about Brigham Young and the Mormons establishing themselves in Utah and Gangster shit like murders.

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Yeah, like you don't realize like what a gangster Brigham Young was you're like, holy shit Is this all accurate and it's accurate Peter Berg made it.

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Yeah, I mean imagine wild show, dude

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Imagine leading a people against the American government and setting up your own place.

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You have to be a bad motherfucker to do that.

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And then the wildest ones went to Mexico.

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We're gonna flee the whole country.

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Yeah, the Mormons really, really like, they fought to survive.

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But it's what we were talking about earlier.

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It's like human beings have a bunch of different ways where they can adapt to whatever the group is doing.

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There's a bunch of where like, so we're really, really malleable.

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You know, we're easily influenced.

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We can, you know, we adjust to whatever the environment is.

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And then if you're a Mormon woman, you're like, I guess I'm sharing this motherfucker with eight other ladies.

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You're out there washing.

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sheets and shit you can probably convince yourself you're happy about it you're probably not like that you're probably like and we're doing this for god this is what god wants i remember we all got our own planet we were in a rest stop once uh ari and i were on a road doing stand-up and uh we pulled into this place to get gas and we were walking around this like rest stop one of them little supermarket things and these ladies came in i think there were men and knights

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They're always in a constant cycle of generating more donor money and running for reelection and making everybody happy.

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And R was like, what group are you in?

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And they did not know how to talk to him.

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And I was like, oh, this is like a really in-depth breakdown of what's going on with Taylor Swift.

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Oh, yeah, because they're only allowed to talk to the one man in their life.

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Pretty sure he was stoned.

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Yeah, you definitely were stoned.

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But it was really funny.

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Ari was like, well, what do you guys do?

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But I was like, wow, these people are living.

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I mean, we're dealing with 2005 or some shit like that.

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You're dealing with these people that are from another time.

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It's another time period.

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They're dressed like they're literally like pioneers.

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They look like colonists.

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They have old-timey 1800s clothes on.

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You ever see, like, how Mennonites dress?

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We're at a gas station, you know, in front of the fucking Popeye's chicken.

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And we're like, this is so weird.

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And there's a group of them out there.

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It's like some fucking shack, some house, some compound.

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I believe this was, I think we were in Massachusetts when this happened, or maybe New Hampshire.

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It's just weird when they can get people to dress up.

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You know, like wild, wild country.

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Everybody's wearing the robes.

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Yeah, put that rainbow t-shirt on.

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Put the pronouns in the bio.

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Where's your Black Lives Matter sign?

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It's like human beings just want to become a part of a group, man.

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Very friendly, warm environment.

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Everybody goes there with the same purpose.

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This Rebecca Lamov lady that I told you was the expert in mind control, one of the things she talked about, the dangers of echo chambers.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You get in these echo chambers online, and everybody says the same thing, thinks the same thing, and then all of a sudden you're locked into this way of thinking.

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It's online, like really dangerous, where people just sort of have –

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Everyone's sort of reinforcing all these ideas.

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You never get any outside information.

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All only exists in this echo chamber.

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And then that's how you become – your politics become your personality.

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So it's like eventually they get you to play ball.

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When I was a kid, when politics was just on television and the newspapers, nobody gave a fuck who you supported.

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Maybe they thought you were an idiot because you're going to vote for that guy.

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Oh, that guy's a moron.

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Well, it's like who would she endorse if she didn't endorse Biden?

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But there was no like we couldn't talk at the dinner table.

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It became everything, every part of your identity to fight against this.

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We are fighting against fascism by using fascism.

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We're going to stop the election.

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We're going to remove people from social media.

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We're going to shut down these voices.

The Joe Rogan Experience
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This is the argument that Bernie Sanders made on on flagrant.

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I'm an austin comic now and people will be like oh so you do comedy so you must be like an alt right wing comic because it's like no i just do comedy like you know like there's a lot of there's a lot of stage time in the city and that's sort of the whole point of the whole exercise is to get up on stage and bro how many times do we like duke it out with ron white in the green room over politics in the most friendly hilarious way right right tony and i are roasting him

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Well, you know what's funny is that, ironically, people online, for whatever reason, Ron White's face is used a lot to come up on conservative memes.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, because conservatives love him.

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I know, and it's so funny to me every time.

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He was essentially saying to our caution, Andrew, he was saying what my choice was.

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You're like, wow, y'all really think Ron White's this, like, deep red conservative.

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It's so funny, because you get to know him.

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He's the most liberal amongst us.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's first, and then Brian Simpson's two.

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But Brian Simpson, it makes sense to me, because, you know...

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used a lot of social services, had a rough stretch as a child.

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That's not as bad as him, but the same kind of reasoning for social safety nets are important.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

It's like, that's super important, man.

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People get people access to medicine.

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Sometimes people are poor and sometimes people get sick when they're poor.

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And the fact that shit could bankrupt you for your whole life.

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You're bankrupt for your whole life.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, and the fact that people don't agree on that, or the fucking education thing that we bring up ad nauseum.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

The fact that that's the only loans you can never get out of with bankruptcy, that's crazy.

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And you get them when you're 18?

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either help Donald Trump or support the Democratic Party, even though they fucked him over.

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Are you out of your fucking mind?

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Like, that's so predatory.

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Take a kid and give him a credit card with a 39% interest rate.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, what are you talking about?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And then you told them, like, if you go to college, like, it's going to be better for you on the other end.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And it's like, that's not true at all.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, especially if you, like, got just a degree in, like, something that doesn't pay lucratively.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I remember when I first started becoming successful as a comedian where I was actually making a living as a comedian.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And I had friends that did the whole college thing and got jobs, and they were fucking miserable because we were both in our 20s.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they were out there in the workforce just fucking tired all the time.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

They were upset that I didn't do that.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And yet I'm making money.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I'm having a good time hanging out with my friends.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've got no one telling me what to do.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Oh, she did the whole Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively thing, and I'm eating popcorn.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You weren't, this is not, you're supposed to be a loser.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I was, I did the right thing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So I started, I started comedy in my third year of college.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

So my fourth year, I'm like weighing out whether, what do I want to do with my life?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And so his choice, he made the choice to support Hillary.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, I mean, I get it from Bernie's perspective, but in my mind, if I'm like, and this is me not knowing anything about how Congress works, but it's like, if I'm supposed to be the next young, the change of the Democratic Party, I think the power move is to not endorse anybody there.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because if you failed the safe way, then you will always be like, fuck, I had this other thing I could have done.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And where could that have led me?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But, however, the problem with that is, like, you've met open micers that are out of their fucking mind.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And they're not going, it's not going to happen.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

No one wants to listen to you say anything, ever.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like, this ain't working.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I saw that Jim Carrey speech and I knew I just had to stay on the path.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You got any advice for me, Hasan?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, that's the weird one when people like that, they want to ask advice.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What do you think I should do?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What I really think you should do?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Or what do you want me to say?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What do you want me to say?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Want me to give you the secret word?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, this is how you have talent.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is how you make it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

This is how you write a joke.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, this is what you gotta do.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You know what really happens with some guys?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You get a hot girlfriend that is a comic, and then you're a really good comic, and she's terrible, and so you start writing her act.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I've seen that happen a few times.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What if it happens the other way?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You get a really good female comic, and she starts dating some guy who sucks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

She goes, listen, if you're gonna date me, let me help you with your fucking material.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

I don't know if female comics date down like that very often.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Yeah, they usually don't.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

What are you doing with an open-miker?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

But if you're like a headliner who does theaters, you could totally have an open-miker as a girlfriend.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Like if Ali Wong or whatever started dating an open-miker, you'd be like, yo, what happened?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Something went wrong for her to date an open mic.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

And Whitney Cummings started dating an open mic.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

You're like, what are you doing, crazy?

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Show me what pills you're on.

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You're going to take these away from me now, Whitney.

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Mike is all sketchy and fucking weird, but he's built good.

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You know, he's got big, big bulges, pants.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

If I'm in like an AOC position of just like... I think the system is a little more locked down than we'd like to think.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Being a female comic is infinitely harder.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Because right away, people don't want to hear you talk about politics, don't want to hear your opinions on things.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Christina pulls it off, but it's hard to be pretty on stage.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

Well, they had their baby.

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#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's going to light a fire under him, guaranteed.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2329 - Ehsan Ahmad

He's going to work so much harder now.

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He's going to be excited about it.

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And he'll have so much material, too, because it's just the whole experience of children.

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While you're put here on earth.

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Well, clearly it is, right?

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I know, the arenas is just like a little dance that we do together, but we're really procreating.

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And then on top of that, we're making AI, and it's alive now, talking to itself.

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So our job is almost done.

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So you got in, Derek probably got in one of the last babies.

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Yeah, one of the last people that need to have a kid.

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Because here's a good example.

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It's kind of fucked, but...

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Listen, that's how the thing goes.

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You know, Australopithecus didn't get to stay around.

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Eventually it's going to come to an end.

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You can't even code your fucking dumb ass with your stone tools.

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They were going to release the Epstein files day one, right?

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We can't have you anymore.

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And you know, Australopithecus is like, bro, your days are numbered.

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There's a Homo sapien coming.

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There was like other stuff before.

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Even before, like a Homo sapien to an Australopithecus is like, it's like an alien.

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We're the same species, kind of.

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It's all so nuts that we would think that it would end with us.

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Yeah, but we're the perfect.

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We're in the middle of fucking 30 wars right now.

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What are you talking about?

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We got the fucking all this congressional bullshit that we were just talking about with the insider trading, all the lies, all the different things that have gotten us in these different wars.

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Why would you want to stay this?

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Well, it's the devil you know versus the devil you don't.

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This is like, we can handle this.

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We are not going to be around.

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There's going to be a new thing.

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If that's what you wanted to do before you got the job, but then you got the job and day one you couldn't do it.

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Just like dinosaurs don't exist anymore.

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There's going to be a new thing.

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Oh, it's going to be cool.

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Eventually, these Waymos are going to start slowly taking people out.

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These animals are slowly going to start taking people out.

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All you have to do is just keep the door shut forever until you starve to death and they consume you.

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Do you ever see that DARPA robot that they built?

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They built a DARPA robot called the Eater Robot.

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I forget what it stands for.

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But it's fueled by biological material.

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Sometimes I feel like scientists don't watch any movies.

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them all they watch them all like i want to do that like what do we do what are we doing here we're making fucking weapons all right what's the best way to fuel these things is it solar should we get out there and fill their tank up with gas or let them eat bodies

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And I think it was any kind of biological material.

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It could be just plants.

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It could just be plants.

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It could be just ground squirrels.

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Maybe they just eat ground squirrels.

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Maybe they just eat fucking dead bodies on the battlefield.

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Are we saying that this is more complicated?

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If you're a robot, an autonomous robot that exists on biological materials, and you also kill people.

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You just eat a couple of those people.

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Can you imagine if they really designed artificially intelligent robots that kill people and eat them?

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It's probably a lot more complicated.

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Because that's the way to really do – if you want to do battle efficiently, well, what fuel would be the most efficient fuel to use?

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Well, what is the fuel that you're making with your task?

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Well, that fuel would be bodies.

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Well, when you run out of bodies, is your task done?

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So then you just shut off.

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There's probably a web.

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Because you're out of fuel.

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So you run out of gas when you've eaten everybody on Earth.

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It's the perfect design.

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If you wanted to extinguish human life on Earth, that's what you'd do.

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You'd have autonomous intelligence, artificial intelligence that absolutely knows where everyone is at any given time because everybody has a digital signature and everyone's connected to devices.

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And then there's also people for decades and decades have been developing relationships and working inside these fucking – and that's the real government.