Einar Volsett

Actually, no.

So I grew up in Norway.

And I think my first computer was like a Commodore 64.

My first programming I ever did was making it make a machine gun noise.

That was sort of the first thing I remember doing.

But then honestly, I wasn't doing an awful lot of programming before I got to college.

I was doing more sort of hanging out on BBSs, more sort of hacking phone freaking than anything else.

Oh my God, I'm so old.

Phone freaking is this notion where like, so it depends where you're going.

It's like phone freaking is fooling the telephone system to give you free long distance and international calls by emulating the audio noises that the system plays.

Just you basically play it over the phone line and it gives you free phone calls.

So what year was that?

Ah, this would have been, hopefully, statute of limitations ago.

This would have been, oh, early 90s, I guess, something like that.

Oh, 13, something like that.

Yeah.

yeah pretty much it was like i didn't really get productive like in terms of coding until um until college that's really when i sort of it picked up kicked up for me and i i was interested in it in terms of like i i did very much the academic route like i did i did pretty well uh you both in high school and college and then um sort of the the you know you just i think when you're when you're younger you sort of get good at school and then you sort of just follow that path and then you

Some people aren't smart enough to stop, and so that was me who just ended up like, all right, what if I'm good at school?

I'll take it to the extreme and do a PhD.

And it was only really during my PhD, my master's PhD, that I actually started reading Paul Graham's work, his essays on startups, and it sort of opened my eyes to this notion that