Einar Volsett

oh, this is not this abstract thing that people who went to business school with fancy business plans do.

This is like people like me can go and build their own business and it can be a meaningful outcome.

So sort of a late bloomer in terms of entrepreneurship.

I wasn't one of these kids who had a lemonade stand at five or whatever.

That was never me.

I think most of the time people do what everyone else does.

You get praised for doing something, for going to school, getting good grades, and you think, well, you get good grades in middle school, what do you do?

Well, you go to high school, you get good grades.

Well, if you get good grades in high school, what do you do?

You try to get into the most competitive college.

all right, you got into the best competitive college.

You get amazing grades.

Then that's when most people are like, you know, I'm going to go out and make some money and, and, and, you know, try a career.

Whereas I was sort of just stuck on that.

I was like, well, you know, I guess I needed to prove how smart I was.

There really wasn't one.

Although that being said, there's a couple of like, um,

So Newcastle is an old mining town, like the northeast of England is quite economically depressed, or at least it was at the time.

And so, you know, like there wasn't there wasn't a sort of a large amount of tech industries, although there were some and there was some stories about like, I think Sage, the big sort of tech accounting type firm got founded in Newcastle.

And there's actually a story about I think when we were in undergrad,