Einar Volsett

We had one of the founders come and talk to us.

And that was, I remember that.

That was very interesting.

But partly the most memorable part was one of the lecturers, one of the senior lecturers, or maybe he was a professor then.

He was actually one of the co-founders of Sage and decided not to do that just because he wanted to, instead he wanted to remain a lecturer at the university.

So he turned down being a founder at Sage in order to become a lecturer at Newcastle University, which I think economically at least was a mistake.

I think there's some of that for sure.

I mean, I think like to give you some more context, like it was pretty clear to me after I'd been at Cornell for a couple of years, I didn't want to, I didn't want to become a tenure track professor.

Now, was I smart enough to do it?

Probably not.

But even if I was, I wasn't that interested simply because I didn't, you know, it just wasn't for me.

You know, there's, it's great for some people and, but there's an awful lot of academics who are pretty unhappy, put it that way.

And also like,

But anyway, once I decided to do that, then it's funny how people treat you because

I almost got treated like I was like a death in the family.

You know, like if you're in CS academia, like, you know, high up and you decide to go to industry, even if you decide not to go to like pure industry, if you go into like industrial research, they almost feel people, you almost get the sense that people feel sorry for you.

Like, Oh, you didn't quite make it, you know, not, not quite smart enough.

So, okay, well good for you.

Like, you know, go do your thing.

But, but you know, the real pinnacle of achievement is, is, you know, pure academic research.