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I think the difference between those two in particular is their willingness to engage in conspiracy thinking.

Rogan has entertained a lot of conspiracy theories.

He's had on a lot of folks talking about UFOs, ancient aliens, vaccine skepticism, that kind of thing.

So I would say that's a difference between them.

The spectrum kind of is more entertainment versus a little more serious.

I would say Joe Rogan has actually moved into the more serious kind of category because he takes some of the stuff so seriously.

Right.

Andrew Schultz and the guys on Flagrant are more like they just want to have fun on the podcast.

And they have these moments of earnestness, but like mostly not.

Yeah, I think of Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes.

I mean, Nick Fuentes specifically is like a provocateur influencer type.

He's a streamer.

He is a podcaster.

He's explicitly political and cultural.

He's got things he wants to say and like ideas he wants to push.

So he's sort of

I wouldn't even put him in this sphere, actually.

He's sort of the explicitly like provocateur kind of hateful like section of the Internet.

I think like some people put someone like Tucker Carlson in the manosphere and I don't think he really belongs there.

I think he's pretty explicitly political.