Elaine Godfrey

So he's not doing this for entertainment.

So that is the common summary.

But I would say like these guys, Joe Rogan, Tim Dillon, this whole like Trump friendly podcast world, whether they endorse Trump or not explicitly, some of them didn't explicitly do so.

They were really Trump friendly and like they brought him to their listeners.

And so I think that they really were a big reason why Trump went back to the White House for sure.

Yeah, the crack started to show a while ago, actually.

And I'm going to speak specifically about the Andrew Schultz podcast, the flagrant podcast.

But the same sort of contours repeat themselves across the other shows.

So Andrew Schultz, it seemed, started to get in cold feet about Trump in July when the big, beautiful bill was signed, which added to the federal deficit.

This is the big spending package.

When...

Israel-Gaza conflict had not wound down and the Ukraine-Russia conflict had not wound down.

And most importantly, when Trump reversed himself and blocked the release of some of these Epstein files.

That last thing specifically was like such a big about face because, I mean, we all remember Trump and all of his allies campaigned on, you know, unmasking the predators, right?

Releasing these files.

So that was the first crack in the coalition.

Yeah.

Oh, I think it did feel real.

I mean, it also seems naive for people who followed this and probably for all the people who didn't vote for Trump.

But no, I think they thought he was sincere in his desire to release the files, to name names.