Eleanor Mills

Well, I'd taken loads of ecstasy and stuff back in the 80s.

Yeah, you know, back in the day.

Back in day.

We all did our, like, jumping around.

I did a lot of jumping around in fields.

We were doing it together.

Yeah, exactly.

We were the rave generation.

So, yeah, back in the 90s, I did my hands in the air.

But not since then.

Oh.

work and everything not really and i'd always been scared of taking acid so we took e and that kind of thing but i'm not hallucinogenic no hallucinogens seemed a bit scary we were really brought up with you know we had xamo just say no didn't we on yes totally and then we had on on acid everyone said if you took acid you'd try and jump out of a window yeah you jump out of a window and think you could fly so i was like i don't think i want to do that so but you went from nothing to hero dose in jamaica

Yeah, I went with a friend who'd had really bad PTSD and she wanted to go because she'd read the Michael Pollan book, How to Change Your Mind, which is all about... And there's an amazing documentary, isn't there?

Incredible documentary which people should watch on Netflix, which is basically the book kind of in film version.

But he talks about the...

What actually the neuroscience of what the psilocybin, which is the active bit of magic mushrooms, does in your brain.

And I've talked to a lot of neuroscientists about it as a good journalist.

And what they say about it is it's a bit like if you're going skiing and there were really deep ruts in the snow because it's all been carved up and there hadn't been snow for a while.

What the taking the psilocybin does is it kind of like a fresh fall of snow and it allows you to create new parts in your brain.

That's brilliant.