Elena

Because while she's not saying, you know, I definitively hit him as a declarative statement or anything, she's speculating, and strongly speculating, I'd say, that she could have hit John. And we have to think about this from the jury's point of view. They're seeing this and they're potentially thinking, well, Karen herself thinks she could have done it.

We have her lawyers making their case on the fact that there's no collision, but now the jury is looking at evidence of the defendant saying, well, maybe there was a collision. And I think that difference is a serious problem for the defense. Now, the next witness for the prosecution was meteorologist Robert Gilman.

We have her lawyers making their case on the fact that there's no collision, but now the jury is looking at evidence of the defendant saying, well, maybe there was a collision. And I think that difference is a serious problem for the defense. Now, the next witness for the prosecution was meteorologist Robert Gilman.

We have her lawyers making their case on the fact that there's no collision, but now the jury is looking at evidence of the defendant saying, well, maybe there was a collision. And I think that difference is a serious problem for the defense. Now, the next witness for the prosecution was meteorologist Robert Gilman.

and I think the prosecution called him mainly to establish that the ground was completely frozen at that time, meaning that maybe a hit to the head on that hard ground could have killed somebody.

and I think the prosecution called him mainly to establish that the ground was completely frozen at that time, meaning that maybe a hit to the head on that hard ground could have killed somebody.

and I think the prosecution called him mainly to establish that the ground was completely frozen at that time, meaning that maybe a hit to the head on that hard ground could have killed somebody.

But I also think Gilman provided some decent points for the defense, because he testified that at around 1am on the night of the incident, snow was only falling at around 3 tenths of an inch per hour, and visibility was 1.25 miles.

But I also think Gilman provided some decent points for the defense, because he testified that at around 1am on the night of the incident, snow was only falling at around 3 tenths of an inch per hour, and visibility was 1.25 miles.

But I also think Gilman provided some decent points for the defense, because he testified that at around 1am on the night of the incident, snow was only falling at around 3 tenths of an inch per hour, and visibility was 1.25 miles.

And he agreed that at that time, which was around the time of Jen McCabe's lookout mission, and around the time that some of the partygoers started to leave the house, he said that someone should have been able to see something laying only 30 feet away. Then Nicholas Garino retook the stand for the final time. We've heard from him throughout the trial.

And he agreed that at that time, which was around the time of Jen McCabe's lookout mission, and around the time that some of the partygoers started to leave the house, he said that someone should have been able to see something laying only 30 feet away. Then Nicholas Garino retook the stand for the final time. We've heard from him throughout the trial.

And he agreed that at that time, which was around the time of Jen McCabe's lookout mission, and around the time that some of the partygoers started to leave the house, he said that someone should have been able to see something laying only 30 feet away. Then Nicholas Garino retook the stand for the final time. We've heard from him throughout the trial.

He's a state trooper and he's in charge of cell phone extractions. He testified that on the night of the incident, there were 34 unanswered calls from Karen to John, as well as eight voicemails and two texts. I'll read a couple of them. At 12.37am, Karen left a voicemail saying, quote, John, I effing hate you. At 12.59am, she said, John, I'm here with your effing kids.

He's a state trooper and he's in charge of cell phone extractions. He testified that on the night of the incident, there were 34 unanswered calls from Karen to John, as well as eight voicemails and two texts. I'll read a couple of them. At 12.37am, Karen left a voicemail saying, quote, John, I effing hate you. At 12.59am, she said, John, I'm here with your effing kids.

He's a state trooper and he's in charge of cell phone extractions. He testified that on the night of the incident, there were 34 unanswered calls from Karen to John, as well as eight voicemails and two texts. I'll read a couple of them. At 12.37am, Karen left a voicemail saying, quote, John, I effing hate you. At 12.59am, she said, John, I'm here with your effing kids.

No one knows where the eff you are, you effing pervert. At 1.10am, she left a voicemail saying, you're effing using me right now. You're effing another girl. Now, is it a good look to be throwing eff bombs at your boyfriend, who it turns out was dead or dying at the time? No. But it's so bad of a look that I almost think it comes back around and helps the defense.

No one knows where the eff you are, you effing pervert. At 1.10am, she left a voicemail saying, you're effing using me right now. You're effing another girl. Now, is it a good look to be throwing eff bombs at your boyfriend, who it turns out was dead or dying at the time? No. But it's so bad of a look that I almost think it comes back around and helps the defense.

No one knows where the eff you are, you effing pervert. At 1.10am, she left a voicemail saying, you're effing using me right now. You're effing another girl. Now, is it a good look to be throwing eff bombs at your boyfriend, who it turns out was dead or dying at the time? No. But it's so bad of a look that I almost think it comes back around and helps the defense.

And what I mean by that is that if she intentionally and knowingly killed him, which is what that second-degree murder charge says, would she really go call him to scream at him? If she were trying to use these calls to establish an alibi, I would imagine she'd try to come off as a little bit more loving, wouldn't you?