Elena

By then, the marriage was definitely in tatters, and Robert had hoped that maybe they were still able to save things if they, you know, took some time to work on it, got away from what he saw as their problems, from the chaos, the constant social stimulation of the city.

I mean, at this point, you're looking at it and you're like, I don't know if you really could have rebounded from what was going on here.

I mean, at this point, you're looking at it and you're like, I don't know if you really could have rebounded from what was going on here.

There's really no rebounding off of that. Yeah. Because again, like you said, Robert had become physically abusive at this point and Kathy had moved out. And there was really not a lot between them besides like bitterness and... Resentment. Yeah. And anger. Which is, makes sense. So like, what was this gonna do?

There's really no rebounding off of that. Yeah. Because again, like you said, Robert had become physically abusive at this point and Kathy had moved out. And there was really not a lot between them besides like bitterness and... Resentment. Yeah. And anger. Which is, makes sense. So like, what was this gonna do?

But the following day, Kathy knocked on the door of their neighbor, Ruth Mayer, and asked if she could borrow a hat and a scarf because she had forgotten to bring hers and she wanted to go for a walk. Yeah. Later, when asked about the specifics, Ruth couldn't recall whether Kathy had mentioned if she planned to go for the walk by herself.

But the following day, Kathy knocked on the door of their neighbor, Ruth Mayer, and asked if she could borrow a hat and a scarf because she had forgotten to bring hers and she wanted to go for a walk. Yeah. Later, when asked about the specifics, Ruth couldn't recall whether Kathy had mentioned if she planned to go for the walk by herself.

She said, as Kathy began walking away, she called out to say, Ruth did, she called out and said she was having some friends that evening and suggested that Kathy stop by. But Kathy had other plans.

She said, as Kathy began walking away, she called out to say, Ruth did, she called out and said she was having some friends that evening and suggested that Kathy stop by. But Kathy had other plans.

The last time Kathy Durst was seen alive was that evening, January 31st. It was at a dinner party thrown by her friend Gilbert Najimy. Earlier in the afternoon, Kathy had called Najimy and said, I have to get out of the house. Can I come over? Oh, no. She arrived a short time later and appeared very distraught. Najimy said she was always nicely turned out. The things she wore were always nice.

The last time Kathy Durst was seen alive was that evening, January 31st. It was at a dinner party thrown by her friend Gilbert Najimy. Earlier in the afternoon, Kathy had called Najimy and said, I have to get out of the house. Can I come over? Oh, no. She arrived a short time later and appeared very distraught. Najimy said she was always nicely turned out. The things she wore were always nice.

But that afternoon, she apparently showed up wearing red sweatpants and looked as though she hadn't combed her hair in days. It was obvious she was in some sort of trouble. Now, towards the end of Robert and Kathy's marriage, friends and family had definitely started to suspect that things were really bad between this couple.

But that afternoon, she apparently showed up wearing red sweatpants and looked as though she hadn't combed her hair in days. It was obvious she was in some sort of trouble. Now, towards the end of Robert and Kathy's marriage, friends and family had definitely started to suspect that things were really bad between this couple.

But that afternoon, Jimmy got a much more detailed account of just how bad it was. It had started when she was starting to go to medical school years earlier. Okay. A signal that, you know, to Robert that she was becoming more independent. Now, a real man in a like a real man, a real human, a real partner would think that's great. Yeah. And sing your praises.

But that afternoon, Jimmy got a much more detailed account of just how bad it was. It had started when she was starting to go to medical school years earlier. Okay. A signal that, you know, to Robert that she was becoming more independent. Now, a real man in a like a real man, a real human, a real partner would think that's great. Yeah. And sing your praises.

And sing your praises and encourage you. But no, Robert was like me. You're not going to need me. The abuse started gradually. First with just some like really biting remarks, you know what I mean? Like discouragement, just like the verbal kind of stuff. Then it elevated to threats of cutting off her tuition payments.

And sing your praises and encourage you. But no, Robert was like me. You're not going to need me. The abuse started gradually. First with just some like really biting remarks, you know what I mean? Like discouragement, just like the verbal kind of stuff. Then it elevated to threats of cutting off her tuition payments.

Like, you know, using the financial thing against her, like the whole like this is my money kind of shit, which is like that's when it's already done. It's like not when you're married. The physical abuse soon followed. At first, friends recalled Kathy occasionally mentioning Which, like, she just, like, mentioned that Robert had slapped her. Oh.

Like, you know, using the financial thing against her, like the whole like this is my money kind of shit, which is like that's when it's already done. It's like not when you're married. The physical abuse soon followed. At first, friends recalled Kathy occasionally mentioning Which, like, she just, like, mentioned that Robert had slapped her. Oh.

But I can't imagine one of my friends saying that casually. No. And me not going to their house and taking care of that. But by 1981, the term slapped was hit with, was replaced with hit. Implying much greater force and aggression was happening. In the last two years of their marriage, the cruelty Robert directed at Kathy definitely got worse. He openly carried on affairs with other women.