Elena

Okay.

He would then pose the body in various positions around the apartment and take photographs.

Oh.

Yeah.

Okay.

In the case of Stephen Holmes's murder, the body under the floorboards caused Dennis a lot of anxiety and was a source of dread, but also occasional excitement and arousal.

This time, though, Dennis's, you know, the body of Dennis's most recent victim, excuse me, he became more of a play.

And I'm referring to it as the body because that's what he was using it as.

Right.

He wasn't looking at it as Kenneth anymore.

This is his body.

You know what I mean?

Yeah.

I just don't want anybody thinking I'm like not...

treating Kenneth as Kenneth.

This was no longer who Kenneth was.

But like I said, with Stephen Holmes, like being under the floorboard, that to Dennis was like very nerve wracking, very, it made him anxious a lot, but then he would take,

steven's body out and that would get him all happy again uh but this time with kenneth he was more of a playmate or a house guest to dennis okay than anything else like i wonder if that's because he had shared more of a connection one yeah when they initially like more time and then two he had already gotten away with this so he might have been more emboldened that nobody was going to come knock on the door yeah interrupt so i can experiment a little more yeah

Like at night, while he laid in bed watching television, he would often remove Kenneth's body and lay it across himself.

He found comfort in the weight of him laying there.