Elena

Like, what are you talking about? And at no point earlier did he say they had marijuana on them. No. And it's like, now you're saying that you were annoyed that they were allowed to camp there and you got in trouble for it, so you killed them?

Like, what are you talking about? And at no point earlier did he say they had marijuana on them. No. And it's like, now you're saying that you were annoyed that they were allowed to camp there and you got in trouble for it, so you killed them?

Yeah, like, hello? Yeah. And in that way, he said he was enforcing the law. No, that's not how the law works actually at all. But then only a short time later, he said something different about it. He said he, quote, received a telepathic message from the young men saying it was all right to kill them. So he did.

Yeah, like, hello? Yeah. And in that way, he said he was enforcing the law. No, that's not how the law works actually at all. But then only a short time later, he said something different about it. He said he, quote, received a telepathic message from the young men saying it was all right to kill them. So he did.

And he tried to come up with a reason for it.

And he tried to come up with a reason for it.

On August 19th, the jury deliberated briefly before finding Herb guilty on two counts of first degree murder and eight counts of second degree murder, effectively removing the question of diminished capacity from the case. The jury appears to have recognized that he definitely struggled with mental illness. No one is disagreeing with that.

On August 19th, the jury deliberated briefly before finding Herb guilty on two counts of first degree murder and eight counts of second degree murder, effectively removing the question of diminished capacity from the case. The jury appears to have recognized that he definitely struggled with mental illness. No one is disagreeing with that.

But they believed there was sufficient evidence to suggest he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was morally and legally wrong.

But they believed there was sufficient evidence to suggest he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was morally and legally wrong.

He got rid of the whole friends. He got rid of children because he knew they could point and say he showed up at my door. Right. Like, come on. In a statement to the press, Herbert Mullen's attorney said he felt the jury had not wanted to find him criminally insane because he might end up being released at some point in the future.

He got rid of the whole friends. He got rid of children because he knew they could point and say he showed up at my door. Right. Like, come on. In a statement to the press, Herbert Mullen's attorney said he felt the jury had not wanted to find him criminally insane because he might end up being released at some point in the future.

He told reporters, if a man found innocent by reason of insanity went to a hospital and was never going to get out, I think we'd have a lot more insanity verdicts. I don't think that's the case. I think they think he knew what he was doing was wrong. And baby girl, why don't you look up the definition of legally insane? Exactly.

He told reporters, if a man found innocent by reason of insanity went to a hospital and was never going to get out, I think we'd have a lot more insanity verdicts. I don't think that's the case. I think they think he knew what he was doing was wrong. And baby girl, why don't you look up the definition of legally insane? Exactly.

Like, don't sit here and try to say, like, they just don't want him to get out of prison and get out of the hospital. It's like, no, we're just looking at the definition of legally insane. And depending on the jury, like, that is just such a cop out.

Like, don't sit here and try to say, like, they just don't want him to get out of prison and get out of the hospital. It's like, no, we're just looking at the definition of legally insane. And depending on the jury, like, that is just such a cop out.

Like, fuck you. Like, you failed. Well, and also just days after the verdict, jury foreman Ken Springer wrote a letter to the governor expressing his outrage that no one had intervened to prevent this loss of 13 lives. Like, no one had intervened in Herbert Mullen's life and made this stop. Yeah.

Like, fuck you. Like, you failed. Well, and also just days after the verdict, jury foreman Ken Springer wrote a letter to the governor expressing his outrage that no one had intervened to prevent this loss of 13 lives. Like, no one had intervened in Herbert Mullen's life and made this stop. Yeah.

He wrote, I hold the state executive and state legislative offices as responsible for these 10 lives as I do the defendant himself. None of this need ever have happened. And he cited his multiple hospitalizations and releases as missed opportunities to keep a killer off the street.

He wrote, I hold the state executive and state legislative offices as responsible for these 10 lives as I do the defendant himself. None of this need ever have happened. And he cited his multiple hospitalizations and releases as missed opportunities to keep a killer off the street.