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Yeah. He wrote in the letter, according to testimony at his trial, Herbert Mullen could and did respond favorably to treatment of his mental illness. Yet the laws of the state certainly prohibit officials from forcing continued treatment of his illness. And I have the impression that they, as a matter of fact, discourage continued treatment by state and county institutions. Probably.

Yeah. He wrote in the letter, according to testimony at his trial, Herbert Mullen could and did respond favorably to treatment of his mental illness. Yet the laws of the state certainly prohibit officials from forcing continued treatment of his illness. And I have the impression that they, as a matter of fact, discourage continued treatment by state and county institutions. Probably.

Which, like, all right, Ken. I know. Like, good for you writing to your governor and being like, fuck y'all. Like, these 13 people didn't have to die. More people need to do shit like that. Yeah, because it's like there's a this is a failure on many levels. Herbert Mullen was ultimately sentenced to life in prison and sent to Mule Creek State Prison and loaned to serve out his sentence.

Which, like, all right, Ken. I know. Like, good for you writing to your governor and being like, fuck y'all. Like, these 13 people didn't have to die. More people need to do shit like that. Yeah, because it's like there's a this is a failure on many levels. Herbert Mullen was ultimately sentenced to life in prison and sent to Mule Creek State Prison and loaned to serve out his sentence.

He tried many times to gain parole, but he was repeatedly deemed unsuitable by the parole board and denied. While at Mule Creek, he corresponded regularly with supporters outside the prison. That's absolutely fucking bonkers. And even attempted to find a wife. Did he? No. Good. In 1987, he placed an ad in the Scotts Valley Banner. Why is that allowed? And he wrote, seeking an Irish wife.

He tried many times to gain parole, but he was repeatedly deemed unsuitable by the parole board and denied. While at Mule Creek, he corresponded regularly with supporters outside the prison. That's absolutely fucking bonkers. And even attempted to find a wife. Did he? No. Good. In 1987, he placed an ad in the Scotts Valley Banner. Why is that allowed? And he wrote, seeking an Irish wife.

And he described himself as 40 years old. I'm 14 years in prison. I desire to sire children now. No, thank you. You killed children.

And he described himself as 40 years old. I'm 14 years in prison. I desire to sire children now. No, thank you. You killed children.

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I know. Also saying sire children is fucking nuts. I gotta go. On August 18th, 2022. Yeah, recently. Herbert Mullen died of natural causes at the California health care facility in Stockton at 75 years old. Unfortunate. It's very unfortunate.

I know. Also saying sire children is fucking nuts. I gotta go. On August 18th, 2022. Yeah, recently. Herbert Mullen died of natural causes at the California health care facility in Stockton at 75 years old. Unfortunate. It's very unfortunate.

Very, very unfortunate. I hate that he got to live. I do too. Because also he outlived Fred Perez and that makes me angry because Fred was 72. Yeah. I'm like, fuck you.

Very, very unfortunate. I hate that he got to live. I do too. Because also he outlived Fred Perez and that makes me angry because Fred was 72. Yeah. I'm like, fuck you.

It's hard to come by sometimes.

It's hard to come by sometimes.

should he be able to take a class and you know maybe better his mind a little bit exactly but like that kind of thing but putting out a personal ad like really we're trying to do that like come on no absolutely not ridiculous

should he be able to take a class and you know maybe better his mind a little bit exactly but like that kind of thing but putting out a personal ad like really we're trying to do that like come on no absolutely not ridiculous

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