Elena

Like really good with people and have a good demeanor, which it sounds like she was kind of perfect for that. Definitely.

Like really good with people and have a good demeanor, which it sounds like she was kind of perfect for that. Definitely.

They're like going up the steps of the relationship ladder.

They're like going up the steps of the relationship ladder.

Yeah, of course. What an impossible position.

Yeah, of course. What an impossible position.

Well, you want to give her the independence and the freedom to make choices, and you can't tether them to you for the rest of their lives as much as we want to, especially.

Well, you want to give her the independence and the freedom to make choices, and you can't tether them to you for the rest of their lives as much as we want to, especially.

Because it's just like uncharted territory for you. Up until then, you have been able to tether them to you pretty much. And it's your role.

Because it's just like uncharted territory for you. Up until then, you have been able to tether them to you pretty much. And it's your role.

You get to make the rules. And it's like at that point you do feel, it's like it must be this weird feeling of like, well, I have to kind of give them a little freedom, but I don't want to at the same time. Like I want to just keep them here.

You get to make the rules. And it's like at that point you do feel, it's like it must be this weird feeling of like, well, I have to kind of give them a little freedom, but I don't want to at the same time. Like I want to just keep them here.

And I think she definitely... Sounds like she was a little put off by it.

And I think she definitely... Sounds like she was a little put off by it.

So you invited this girl to another state so you could tell her that you're dating someone else?

So you invited this girl to another state so you could tell her that you're dating someone else?

No, that makes literally no sense. That you have her travel to another state so you can tell her that you have a girlfriend.

No, that makes literally no sense. That you have her travel to another state so you can tell her that you have a girlfriend.

Yeah.

Yeah.