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And so of course I was much more interested in their takes on it. Many of the staff who were, as we like to say, drank the Kool-Aid, who were like all in on everything, were always talking about how transformational Landmark was and how wonderful it was.

But when I spoke to the people that I aligned with more just as a human, their experiences with Landmark had been a lot more uncomfortable and invasive. And so I I did some personal research into it. And at that point I was only like two years into mourning my mom. So I was already going through a lot of therapy.

But when I spoke to the people that I aligned with more just as a human, their experiences with Landmark had been a lot more uncomfortable and invasive. And so I I did some personal research into it. And at that point I was only like two years into mourning my mom. So I was already going through a lot of therapy.

But when I spoke to the people that I aligned with more just as a human, their experiences with Landmark had been a lot more uncomfortable and invasive. And so I I did some personal research into it. And at that point I was only like two years into mourning my mom. So I was already going through a lot of therapy.

I had already done a significant amount of work and was in the process with a team that knew what I was going through of doing work. And so when they first kind of said, Hey, we'd like to book you for this. It's this huge gift. You're you've been doing so well. We want to gift you with this. I said, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

I had already done a significant amount of work and was in the process with a team that knew what I was going through of doing work. And so when they first kind of said, Hey, we'd like to book you for this. It's this huge gift. You're you've been doing so well. We want to gift you with this. I said, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

I had already done a significant amount of work and was in the process with a team that knew what I was going through of doing work. And so when they first kind of said, Hey, we'd like to book you for this. It's this huge gift. You're you've been doing so well. We want to gift you with this. I said, thank you so much. I really appreciate it.

But based on my research, I don't think it's a good fit for me at this time. So I basically gave them my spiel about like, I'm doing the work I need to right now. And I don't really feel comfortable, especially with what I've heard and read at this time, I will keep an open mind in the future.

But based on my research, I don't think it's a good fit for me at this time. So I basically gave them my spiel about like, I'm doing the work I need to right now. And I don't really feel comfortable, especially with what I've heard and read at this time, I will keep an open mind in the future.

But based on my research, I don't think it's a good fit for me at this time. So I basically gave them my spiel about like, I'm doing the work I need to right now. And I don't really feel comfortable, especially with what I've heard and read at this time, I will keep an open mind in the future.

And at the time, they were sort of okay with it, but kind of in a way like, okay, well, we'll circle back in a little while.

And at the time, they were sort of okay with it, but kind of in a way like, okay, well, we'll circle back in a little while.

And at the time, they were sort of okay with it, but kind of in a way like, okay, well, we'll circle back in a little while.

Yeah, I can tell, you know, the numbers drop. A lot more people also started smoking instead of shooting. I think that made a difference.

Yeah, I can tell, you know, the numbers drop. A lot more people also started smoking instead of shooting. I think that made a difference.

Yeah, I can tell, you know, the numbers drop. A lot more people also started smoking instead of shooting. I think that made a difference.

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Hey weirdos, Elena here. If you're looking to kick back and relax with Morbid, Wondery Plus is the way to go. It's like having a cozy seat in our haunted mansion. No ads, just you and early access to new episodes. You can join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or in Apple Podcasts or Spotify.

I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is Morbid. Yo! Yo!

I'm Elena. I'm Ash. And this is Morbid. Yo! Yo!