Elena

That's the thing. Like, maybe you get along with one on, like, a better level. And you feel, like, more of a connection there. Like, maybe that's what she was talking about. But it's, like, to then let the other one know that.

And then not just, like, work on that. Right. Yeah. So she really, she was very much more supportive of his brother, Larry. And honestly, she didn't make any bones about letting Jerry know that she wanted a girl. And she was hoping he was a girl. Oh, no.

And then not just, like, work on that. Right. Yeah. So she really, she was very much more supportive of his brother, Larry. And honestly, she didn't make any bones about letting Jerry know that she wanted a girl. And she was hoping he was a girl. Oh, no.

So it's a little, it's got some Ed Gein vibes with the mother kind of thing where it's like these awful feelings of like, you're not good enough and you're not what I wanted.

So it's a little, it's got some Ed Gein vibes with the mother kind of thing where it's like these awful feelings of like, you're not good enough and you're not what I wanted.

Yeah. And she literally did not hide her disappointment that he was even born. Wow.

Yeah. And she literally did not hide her disappointment that he was even born. Wow.

You should be psyched that you have a healthy child.

You should be psyched that you have a healthy child.

Exactly. And because of this whole thing, like they never bonded and she never made any attempt to bond with that child. And then she was very abusive and hostile to him his whole life. And just Jerry, not Larry. Mostly. I think she was just like I think she was in general, but she very much took her anger out on him. Took it mostly out on Jerry. I don't think Larry got as much at all.

Exactly. And because of this whole thing, like they never bonded and she never made any attempt to bond with that child. And then she was very abusive and hostile to him his whole life. And just Jerry, not Larry. Mostly. I think she was just like I think she was in general, but she very much took her anger out on him. Took it mostly out on Jerry. I don't think Larry got as much at all.

That's so fucked. And later, Jerry would describe his mother as stubborn and a selfish egotist. Oh, okay. Damn. Yeah. So she sounds like she was also like very narcissistic. It does sound that way. Kind of vibes. I'm not diagnosing, but like has those vibes. Yes. Now, this one incident that Jerry could remember from when he was younger definitely had a profound effect.

That's so fucked. And later, Jerry would describe his mother as stubborn and a selfish egotist. Oh, okay. Damn. Yeah. So she sounds like she was also like very narcissistic. It does sound that way. Kind of vibes. I'm not diagnosing, but like has those vibes. Yes. Now, this one incident that Jerry could remember from when he was younger definitely had a profound effect.

The kind of thoughts he would have later on, I'm not saying what he did later on, but like definitely led him into a strange thought process. One afternoon while exploring an old junkyard when he was five years old.

The kind of thoughts he would have later on, I'm not saying what he did later on, but like definitely led him into a strange thought process. One afternoon while exploring an old junkyard when he was five years old.

Like imagine my youngest in a junkyard by themselves.

Like imagine my youngest in a junkyard by themselves.

No. He was just, you know, he was out there five years old just exploring a local junkyard.

No. He was just, you know, he was out there five years old just exploring a local junkyard.

And he came across, I know, and he came across a pair of patent leather high-heeled shoes in the trash. Awesome. And his mother was a very, very extremely conservative woman. So she did not wear high heels. She wore plain flats, and that was it. So he had never seen high heels. So this was just something new to him. He was just like, whoa.