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And he came across, I know, and he came across a pair of patent leather high-heeled shoes in the trash. Awesome. And his mother was a very, very extremely conservative woman. So she did not wear high heels. She wore plain flats, and that was it. So he had never seen high heels. So this was just something new to him. He was just like, whoa.
And he was kind of fascinated by them, so he took them home. Okay. Because he's like... He's five. He's five. Yeah.
And he was kind of fascinated by them, so he took them home. Okay. Because he's like... He's five. He's five. Yeah.
And so he's back in his bedroom and he's like playing with the shoes and he's putting them on himself. He's just walking around like they're a fun thing to play with. And he was just kind of parading around his bedroom at five years old with these shoes, which honestly, so his mother caught him, which any, I feel like in any other circumstances, this would just be like.
And so he's back in his bedroom and he's like playing with the shoes and he's putting them on himself. He's just walking around like they're a fun thing to play with. And he was just kind of parading around his bedroom at five years old with these shoes, which honestly, so his mother caught him, which any, I feel like in any other circumstances, this would just be like.
Oh, you found, like what the, I hope those aren't dirty. Yeah. Like that would be my only fear. It's like, hey, let's wash those. They're from the trash. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get you some costume ones. But she did not take it well. She... Very different time. Yeah, very different time. And she was very conservative. So this was how she felt no matter what. And she was furious. She berated him.
Oh, you found, like what the, I hope those aren't dirty. Yeah. Like that would be my only fear. It's like, hey, let's wash those. They're from the trash. Yeah. Yeah. I'll get you some costume ones. But she did not take it well. She... Very different time. Yeah, very different time. And she was very conservative. So this was how she felt no matter what. And she was furious. She berated him.
She was very harsh on him. She like punished him for it and demanded that he get rid of the shoes.
She was very harsh on him. She like punished him for it and demanded that he get rid of the shoes.
Precisely.
Precisely.
It's not wrong anyways, but you wouldn't understand that. Why she would say it's wrong. And that's the thing. He could not understand why she was angry. Right. Why did that make you angry? I didn't do anything to upset anybody.
It's not wrong anyways, but you wouldn't understand that. Why she would say it's wrong. And that's the thing. He could not understand why she was angry. Right. Why did that make you angry? I didn't do anything to upset anybody.
I'm just playing with these things I found that aren't hurting anyone. I don't understand what the problem is. And so he didn't think he'd done anything wrong. Because he hadn't. And so he hid the shoes in his bedroom instead of getting rid of them. And a few days later, she found him playing with the shoes again.
I'm just playing with these things I found that aren't hurting anyone. I don't understand what the problem is. And so he didn't think he'd done anything wrong. Because he hadn't. And so he hid the shoes in his bedroom instead of getting rid of them. And a few days later, she found him playing with the shoes again.
And she was even more angry and then forced him to watch as she burned them in the backyard.
And she was even more angry and then forced him to watch as she burned them in the backyard.
That's like sadistic. And it's just fucking weird behavior. Like you're burning the shoes. What the fuck? What are they going to do? Like, what are you doing? And not only that, she then locked him in his bedroom for the rest of the day at five years old.
That's like sadistic. And it's just fucking weird behavior. Like you're burning the shoes. What the fuck? What are they going to do? Like, what are you doing? And not only that, she then locked him in his bedroom for the rest of the day at five years old.
That's the thing. I'm like, what are you doing? And when he was finally let out of his bedroom, he immediately ran to the home of a neighbor. who was a single woman that he had bonded with. This single woman kind of was like a stand-in for her mother. I was wondering if that was the... Like she kind of took care of him a little bit. She knew what was going on.