Elena
๐ค SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
And he said the scene would replay itself every night. And to him, it was very real. Is that a nightmare or is it a straight up hallucination? It must be his hallucination because no one else in the barracks ever saw a woman sneaking in, heard any noise, like wasn't happening. Soon, he came to dismiss this thing as a kind of hallucination or dream.
but he was disturbed he said that the woman in his dream had aroused such hatred in him okay he said he could feel how much he hated her and he said he not only wanted the woman to stop trying to seduce him but he also wanted to beat her and at times he said i wanted to kill her what the fuck Yeah, his revelations later are like, what the fuck? Yeah.
but he was disturbed he said that the woman in his dream had aroused such hatred in him okay he said he could feel how much he hated her and he said he not only wanted the woman to stop trying to seduce him but he also wanted to beat her and at times he said i wanted to kill her what the fuck Yeah, his revelations later are like, what the fuck? Yeah.
Well, and interestingly here is he became concerned about his own mental health here. Like, he became self-aware. Really? And he knew that this was a problem. That he... felt anger and hatred towards this hallucinating woman and that he wanted to beat her, he wanted to kill her. So he's consulted the army chaplain about it. Wow.
Well, and interestingly here is he became concerned about his own mental health here. Like, he became self-aware. Really? And he knew that this was a problem. That he... felt anger and hatred towards this hallucinating woman and that he wanted to beat her, he wanted to kill her. So he's consulted the army chaplain about it. Wow.
And this army chaplain referred him to the staff psychiatrist, Captain Theodore Barry. So after hearing the story about this woman and his desire to harm her, Barry was convinced that Jerry was unfit for service. So on October 15th, 1959, he was discharged under AR 635-208, which is a determination that the individual is unfit for service despite reasonable attempts to correct the problem. Okay.
And this army chaplain referred him to the staff psychiatrist, Captain Theodore Barry. So after hearing the story about this woman and his desire to harm her, Barry was convinced that Jerry was unfit for service. So on October 15th, 1959, he was discharged under AR 635-208, which is a determination that the individual is unfit for service despite reasonable attempts to correct the problem. Okay.
Now, he was 20 years old at the time, and now he's unemployed, so he has no choice but to move back in with his parents, which I think is the worst thing that could happen.
Now, he was 20 years old at the time, and now he's unemployed, so he has no choice but to move back in with his parents, which I think is the worst thing that could happen.
Of some sort. Right. But so he had to move back on the farm in Oregon and he started sleeping in the spare bedroom. But not long after he did this, Larry, his brother, returned home from college and his mother said that Larry should have the spare bedroom. And she said, Jerry, you go live out in the old shed.
Of some sort. Right. But so he had to move back on the farm in Oregon and he started sleeping in the spare bedroom. But not long after he did this, Larry, his brother, returned home from college and his mother said that Larry should have the spare bedroom. And she said, Jerry, you go live out in the old shed.
They must have shared a bedroom. What the fuck? And now they're not allowed. Now he's not allowed to share the bedroom with Larry. He has to stay in the old shed.
They must have shared a bedroom. What the fuck? And now they're not allowed. Now he's not allowed to share the bedroom with Larry. He has to stay in the old shed.
Yeah, she sounds like a truly just piece of shit individual.
Yeah, she sounds like a truly just piece of shit individual.
Now, frustrated and very isolated in the shed, he fell right back to his old habits and, you know, he was trying to relieve his anxieties and his hallucinations. Now, at first, he went right back to stealing women's underwear and women's shoes like he had when he was a child and an adolescent, but it quickly escalated.
Now, frustrated and very isolated in the shed, he fell right back to his old habits and, you know, he was trying to relieve his anxieties and his hallucinations. Now, at first, he went right back to stealing women's underwear and women's shoes like he had when he was a child and an adolescent, but it quickly escalated.
One evening, while Jerry was running errands in nearby Salem, he spotted a woman in a red dress and started following her.
One evening, while Jerry was running errands in nearby Salem, he spotted a woman in a red dress and started following her.
Which takes a while. Yeah. He just dropped her body to the floor. He didn't know what to do next, though. So he stole the woman's shoes and ran back to his car before anyone spotted him. So that's it? He just choked her into unconsciousness. This is the wild part of him. It's like him digging the hole. He digs the hole. He knows he wants a woman to be in there. Right.