Eliana Johnson

I think that was a really important part of the conversation. And look, for 20 plus years, you can trace it back to Dan Rather in 2004. But even before that, when we had these experiences with titans of supposedly neutral purveyors of the news, who claimed to be one thing, and then there were scandals that showed them to be operating in the service of one political party.

I think that was a really important part of the conversation. And look, for 20 plus years, you can trace it back to Dan Rather in 2004. But even before that, when we had these experiences with titans of supposedly neutral purveyors of the news, who claimed to be one thing, and then there were scandals that showed them to be operating in the service of one political party.

And so your statement that, hey, disclosing your biases upfront actually builds trust with an audience rather than undermining it or undermining one's credibility was, I think, really important. And what I think that The Times often misses is that our problem with them our frustration with them.

And so your statement that, hey, disclosing your biases upfront actually builds trust with an audience rather than undermining it or undermining one's credibility was, I think, really important. And what I think that The Times often misses is that our problem with them our frustration with them.

And so your statement that, hey, disclosing your biases upfront actually builds trust with an audience rather than undermining it or undermining one's credibility was, I think, really important. And what I think that The Times often misses is that our problem with them our frustration with them.

And I say this from the beacon all the time, like the beacon, we say we're conservative, like we own that. And our problem with you is that you claim to be down the middle and we know you're something else. And that is what has broken trust with audiences and readers. So when you don't cover Doug Emhoff, And the scandal surrounding him, that's trust breaking.

And I say this from the beacon all the time, like the beacon, we say we're conservative, like we own that. And our problem with you is that you claim to be down the middle and we know you're something else. And that is what has broken trust with audiences and readers. So when you don't cover Doug Emhoff, And the scandal surrounding him, that's trust breaking.

And I say this from the beacon all the time, like the beacon, we say we're conservative, like we own that. And our problem with you is that you claim to be down the middle and we know you're something else. And that is what has broken trust with audiences and readers. So when you don't cover Doug Emhoff, And the scandal surrounding him, that's trust breaking.

If you were to come out and say like, hey, we don't cover scandals about Democrats because it undercuts our political priors or our mission here. It's going to piss off our readers like, OK, we'd be fine with that. It's the posturing that you're fair. Yes. Right. That just own it.

If you were to come out and say like, hey, we don't cover scandals about Democrats because it undercuts our political priors or our mission here. It's going to piss off our readers like, OK, we'd be fine with that. It's the posturing that you're fair. Yes. Right. That just own it.

If you were to come out and say like, hey, we don't cover scandals about Democrats because it undercuts our political priors or our mission here. It's going to piss off our readers like, OK, we'd be fine with that. It's the posturing that you're fair. Yes. Right. That just own it.

But that is why there's this wide open space for people like you and Joe Rogan and others to go build these huge audiences because they're not fooling people. They're just breaking trust with people.

But that is why there's this wide open space for people like you and Joe Rogan and others to go build these huge audiences because they're not fooling people. They're just breaking trust with people.

But that is why there's this wide open space for people like you and Joe Rogan and others to go build these huge audiences because they're not fooling people. They're just breaking trust with people.

I mean, look, I think there's some truth to the idea that they don't realize they're biased, but it I'm not totally sure that's that's the case. I mean, when you have the CEO of NPR testifying before Congress and saying, yes, we're 87 Democrats and zero Republicans, like it does sort of defy logic that they can truly believe that doesn't actually show up in any of the news coverage.

I mean, look, I think there's some truth to the idea that they don't realize they're biased, but it I'm not totally sure that's that's the case. I mean, when you have the CEO of NPR testifying before Congress and saying, yes, we're 87 Democrats and zero Republicans, like it does sort of defy logic that they can truly believe that doesn't actually show up in any of the news coverage.

I mean, look, I think there's some truth to the idea that they don't realize they're biased, but it I'm not totally sure that's that's the case. I mean, when you have the CEO of NPR testifying before Congress and saying, yes, we're 87 Democrats and zero Republicans, like it does sort of defy logic that they can truly believe that doesn't actually show up in any of the news coverage.

I actually don't think that that question was about Trump, Megan. I think it was about you. And I think the question was put to you such that it really was, how can you, Megan Kelly, who talk a lot about how, who position yourself as pro-woman, who talk a bit about how to have a real career and build a family, who are certainly, you know, you're certainly not a wilting violet.

I actually don't think that that question was about Trump, Megan. I think it was about you. And I think the question was put to you such that it really was, how can you, Megan Kelly, who talk a lot about how, who position yourself as pro-woman, who talk a bit about how to have a real career and build a family, who are certainly, you know, you're certainly not a wilting violet.

I actually don't think that that question was about Trump, Megan. I think it was about you. And I think the question was put to you such that it really was, how can you, Megan Kelly, who talk a lot about how, who position yourself as pro-woman, who talk a bit about how to have a real career and build a family, who are certainly, you know, you're certainly not a wilting violet.