The Megyn Kelly Show
Media's Sad and Smug Celebration, Gaslighting on Immigration, and Bizarre Belichick Interview, with Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson | Ep. 1059
Mon, 28 Apr 2025
Megyn Kelly is joined by Emily Jashinsky, host of "Undercurrents" on UnHerd, and Eliana Johnson, editor of the Washington Free Beacon, to discuss the absurdity at the White House Correspondents Dinner this year, one reporter getting an award for his coverage of Biden’s cognitive decline, how the entire media ignored the issue and gaslit the public for years, the absurdly smug White House correspondents celebrating themselves, the head of the WHCA's ridiculous speech, the hatred for Trump yet claims of objectivity, the bizarre and cringy Bill Belichick CBS News interview, his 24-year-old girlfriend calling the shots behind-the-scenes, the corporate media continuing to gaslight the public about Trump and illegal immigration cases, the truth about the Wisconsin judge who was arrested for concealing an illegal immigrant, how the coverage is affecting Trump's polling, why fired Pentagon staff are speaking out including in Megyn's interview with alleged "leaker" Colin Carroll, what we're learning about the internal politics and Secretary Pete Hegseth, and more. Plus Megyn previews her new special “Blonde Origin” - a parody of Blue Origin’s ridiculous "mission" to space, the disaster the trip has been for Gayle King and Katy Perry, and more.Jashinsky- https://www.youtube.com/@undercurrentsunherdJohnson- https://freebeacon.com/ Featured music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K3GQdD30F0 https://www.SelectQuote.com/MEGYNTax Network USA: Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit https://TNUSA.com/MEGYN to speak with a strategist for FREE todayGrand Canyon University: https://GCU.eduPaleovalley: 100% grass-fed beef sticks. Get 20% off your 1st order https://paleovalley.com/Megyn and use code MEGYN. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/MegynKellyTwitter: http://Twitter.com/MegynKellyShowInstagram: http://Instagram.com/MegynKellyShowFacebook: http://Facebook.com/MegynKellyShow Find out more information at: https://www.devilmaycaremedia.com/megynkellyshow
Chapter 1: What was the atmosphere and media coverage like at the White House Correspondents Dinner?
Consider taking a step to secure your peace of mind and get the right life insurance for you for less at selectquote.com slash Megan. Selectquote.com slash Megan. Selectquote. They shop, you save. Ladies, welcome back. So as Gayle King might say, have you been? Have you been? Did you go to the White House Correspondents Dinner?
I did not. Eliana, did you go? I have been one time, and that was enough for me. I think maybe 2018 or 2019, that was good enough for me. And I cannot tell you how happy I was not to attend any cocktail parties or any events associated with this weekend of... festivities in Washington.
Yes, I totally agree with you. Same answer for me. I've been. I didn't go. I had zero desire to go. I did speak with Maureen Callahan, who went, which she considered to be research for her new podcast, which is called The Nerve. Everyone should go and subscribe. It's doing great. She's crushing it. But anyway, I don't want to steal her thunder, but she basically described virtually every...
guest who she talked to as doing the following. And it's not just Maureen. They do this to everybody. For the listening audience, I'm pretending to look over somebody's shoulder. It's so annoying. I've been there too. It's so effed up. It's like, they're always looking for someone more important. You really want to be like, Listen, effer, there is no one more important.
I'm standing here right in front of you. I've made the time to talk to you. I showed up at your stupid party. You're so rude, but that's how they all are because it's a bunch of glommers who want to climb some corporate ladder in Washington in the press corps. What is the apex of that in today's day and age?
I don't really know, but this thing has been dwindled down to the smallest, most pathetic version of itself, with no stars, I mean, none. We used to have like Scarlett Johansson there. I mean, I mocked George Clooney, but at the height of his fame, he showed up at this thing. Now it was like some C-lister from some cop show I never heard of. I don't, it's like, I didn't know who these people were.
With all due respect to the actors and actresses, it's just, we used to have the creme de la creme of the Hollywood crowd. Now they can't get anybody. Trump used to go. Trump used to go. Exactly right. Supreme Court justices used to be all over the place. Helen Mirren I saw one time at these things. It was like, I'm just saying, it used to be household names if they got Hollywood celebs.
Now it's like, who? Who's that? You Google them. You kind of know the name of that show, but usually not really. And just the most insulting bit of information there. Okay, there were a couple of misfires. I'm going to start with this one. So they had Alex Thompson of Axios get up there, who received an award for... Okay, wait, I want to make sure I have the right... title. Hold on. What is it?
Alex Thompson. Oh God. Is it, did I not write it down? I can't find it. His was, I think the Aldo Beckman award for his coverage of the coverup of Biden's mental decline. All right. They gave him an award for this. And here is how he sounded when he took that award.
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Chapter 2: Why is Alex Thompson's award for Biden's cognitive decline coverage controversial?
Poor James Rosen got banned from the White House press office for 18 months. Because he dared ask a question. I don't remember Alex Thompson or these other guys standing up for James Rosen. They missed nothing.
So they didn't wanna cover it. And the other piece of this is not only did they not want to cover it, they then gaslit the American public about the conservatives who were pointing this out. The New York Times and other outlets wrote about the deceptively edited videos of Biden and did full pieces about how any commentary about Biden's diminished mental capacity
was misleading so they didn't want to cover it and then they told their readers that any coverage that was occurring of it was misleading and fake and so i think to sort of fully address this uh you would have to say we didn't want to cover it and we gaslit uh people who on their own We're going down this path and we're curious about what was happening.
And the third thing I would say is that it's somewhat less courageous to speak out about this now, because after that June debate between Biden and Trump. The mainstream media was exposed as sort of the man who has no clothes. So these things are safe to say. And by the way, books about this are now marketable when they weren't before. So now this can be told. Everything can be said.
And it is considered courageous to say this sort of thing, whereas it was really hard and dangerous for mainstreamers to say this before that. So I think that's the context around all of this.
They also allowed themselves to get bullied by the Biden White House into not covering the story while claiming the mantle of, quote, democracy dies in darkness, of them being the ones who were adversarial to power, where they saw what happened to the James Rosens. The axis was revoked. They saw Alex Thompson getting yelled at. Yeah.
And like literally that that bullying was enough for them to shut up. But now they, of course, want to frame themselves as the champions of democracy in the face of the adversary. And that is ridiculous, too, because when it was hardest, they allow themselves like that was I will give them credit.
It was hard because the White House was going to take away your access and they were going to complain about you. But if everyone had done it, it would have been OK. They know damn well it would have been OK because it was a true story.
and the White House couldn't get away with it, and the public saw it, but they allowed themselves to be played a fool by the Biden White House and to get bullied into silence. That's when it would have mattered that they were standing up for democracy in the darkness.
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Chapter 3: How did mainstream media handle the story of Biden's mental decline?
A month after he saw Biden almost fall off the stage and incomprehensible and unable to talk, he kept his mouth shut until after the presidential debate when the Democrats could visually see their presidential hopes swirling the bowl and he was refusing to go. Speak out.
I'm sorry, but I am not going to let any of these people, whether it's Alex Thompson at Axios or George Clooney or The New York Times, any of them claim that this was a good faith mistake that people missed despite their best efforts. It's a lie. It was a an intentional cover up and desire not to know.
And we kind of know that because of their own reporting. This is a subtle subplot of all of the think pieces and investigative reports that have come out since the debate, but especially since the election, which found that donors were regularly chatting about this. White House aides were regularly chatting about this.
People in the upper echelons of Democratic Party circles were talking about this openly. And so that tells us that it's an open secret that tells us that this is absolutely besides what people were just seeing on their screens in front of their faces or maybe at the White House.
If you were a White House reporter and you were seeing Joe Biden look like he was ailing, you were hearing other people talk about it as well. They were just doing it behind closed doors, which means that it's a story. It means it's a story that you should have published.
And we again, we know this via their own reporting at this point at which this has become thematic to just know that, OK, so everyone was talking about this. OK, you heard it. And then it just never ended up getting printed because what you were afraid of losing access. And Megan, the other thing is this was a huge story in 2020. It was a huge story in 2024. But everyone could see this in 2020.
And a lot of people were talking about it in the 2020 election. I mean, really, as far back as 2019. This is something that you could kind of see plainly with your own eyes. It was why Donald Trump was having success talking about the quote unquote basement campaign that Biden was running. And that's when the campaign was forced to kind of get Joe Biden out there a little bit more.
But he was saying all kinds of bizarre and concerning things before he was inaugurated president, before he was elected president. And the media was not talking about it then at Despite the fact that a lot of people around the country were thinking it, media was thinking it too. We know reporters and journalists had the same thoughts. They just weren't courageous enough to probe them.
Here's James Rosen. I misspoke earlier when I said 18 months, it was eight months. He was blackballed at the white house. And this is how James put it in his own words. When I asked the POTUS president of the United States on January 19th, 2022 about this issue, it was considered rude. And I was blackballed in briefings for eight months. Here was that question, January 19th, 2022.
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Chapter 4: What criticisms are leveled at the White House Correspondents Association and their leadership?
If the spouse is going to be any place, they're normally like behind, out of sight from both the interviewer and the interviewee. So it's not to be a distraction. Not only was she in sight, but she was a constant distraction. Eliana, what are we to make of this?
There were two things. I mean, one, if she thought she was making it better, this thing became the whole story of how weird this was. She presumably was trying to make the thing, you know, steer him away from saying something that would have become the whole story. The other thing was you didn't play this clip, but they show they say, oh, you're on social media now and you're on Instagram.
And you've posted these couple pictures. And here's you doing a yoga pose with her.
Wait, we have that too, Eliana. Apologies. Let's play it and then you take it on the back side.
You joined Instaface, as you put it. I love that. There's some great pictures of you and Jordan where you're a fisherman and she's a mermaid. It's charming. It's a different side of you. What's the reaction been like? What's it been like to have these different sort of photos? There's another one where you're doing, I know you're not into meditation or yoga or Pilates.
You're balancing Jordan on your feet and she's doing kind of the Titanic pose.
Yeah, so I'm on some of those social media platforms, but I honestly don't follow them.
Oh my God. Go ahead, Eliana.
So I went and looked at his Instagram account. Those are not posted there. And then I just looked closely when you were playing it. It looks like those are posted to her account. And that does comport with what my perception of his reaction was, which was he did not seem to realize those things had been posted online, which was totally bizarre.
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Chapter 5: What happened in the bizarre Bill Belichick CBS News interview?
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Chapter 6: Who is Bill Belichick's 24-year-old girlfriend and how does she influence his public appearances?
Conservative David Brooks. Yeah. Yeah. Conservative David Brooks. The New York Times conservative writer David Brooks. Yeah. It's just like, listen... This gets my blood boiling. It's not just even the alleged victims in this case that are being deprived of due process.
This is American people who are potentially having to harbor someone who was charged with this because we're potentially going to have to live shoulder to shoulder with somebody who was charged with this. Because some activist judge appoints herself ahead of what the FBI wants in this case. And again, by the way, I thought Rachel Maddow was a defender of the FBI's authority.
It's important law enforcement authority when the FBI was going after Donald Trump. That's where the left came down on. the sacred duty of the FBI. But now the American people not only have to deal with the flood of what the New York Times estimated to be, I think, a net of 8 million people who came into the country under the Biden administration.
That is the population of multiple medium-sized states put together. So the American people don't even just have to deal with that. They have to also deal with the left saying, that even the people, even the worst of the worst, people who have all of these multiple orders have had these insane allegations against them. We can't even deport those people.
You just have to live with them because we should have open borders and we should allow as many people as possible to claim asylum in the United States of America. And any effort to push back on that, we will have to push back on that. And so you just have to live with it. this. I mean, it is so it is so I don't know if the alleged victims in this case are U.S. citizens.
And like if we said that they were, I mean, imagine that being you or your family. You get beat 30 times by somebody who's not supposed to be here. And then a judge Just deprives you of the opportunity to have that case held out and to hold someone to justice. I mean, it's completely.
What about the citizen apartment residents of that apartment building who have to put up with this guy blasting music all day, beating their neighbors, making them feel unsafe? Allegedly, they can't even get a day in court because some dumb judge and Rachel Maddow is upset that she gets arrested for doing something illegal.
Oh, no, they think the left is... The narrative on this is that this was intimidation. This was the Trump administration trying to intimidate all judges as if... If they if they had wanted to do that, if that were their goal, as if they wouldn't have done something to Judge Boasberg, that's the one they can't stand.
That's the one who's done all sorts of things to Team Trump, including finding them in criminal contempt before the U.S. Supreme Court. Well, after he found them after the U.S. Supreme Court said you didn't have jurisdiction over this case, but he proceeded anyway. If there were a judge they really wanted to intimidate, it would have been Boasberg. They haven't.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of the media's portrayal of Trump and Biden on public perception?
I felt like, one, I'm being told I can't talk about my investigation, but he is directing the investigation and on national television basically saying everyone were a criminal. Or maybe not. Maybe we're going to be exonerated. I don't know. It was kind of a bit of a – it was hard to interpret what was going on. Yeah, I'm here because I want the American public to know the truth.
I think that your viewers, you've got a lot of viewers, and I think this is a good medium to do that. And I think from the truth, I will be able to show that I am innocent and hopefully be publicly exonerated, which is really what I'm looking for.
So Emily, we've had the advantage now on Monday of seeing all of our viewer mail and it came in in droves, in droves about this interview. It's posted on our YouTube right now and on our podcast feed. And there wasn't one who had any doubts about him.
And they had a myriad of reasons why they believed him fully, but there wasn't even one listener or viewer of the interview, which again is about 90 minutes long, who had even a scintilla of doubt that he was a truth teller. They could hear him do certain things that truth tellers do, like run toward the story, run toward the event that they're being asked about, in this case, leaks.
Want a full exploration of it, not just faking, no ums and ahs as they try to dance past it or away from it. And I totally understand what they're saying. When listening to that guy, my own personal opinion is he didn't do it. I don't know why he was fired, but he spoke of a Pentagon that is having a lot of internal fights with personnel. And these are Pete's guys.
President Trump, even over the weekend, he gave an interview to The Atlantic magazine, still reiterating that he's in Pete's corner, which is good. But it does seem like there's a bit of personnel problems going on inside the Pentagon.
Yeah, so this is such an interesting story, and that was a great interview. I agree completely. I had the same reaction to him as the audience did and as you did. People can watch Dan on Tucker's show, Dan Caldwell on Tucker's show as well, and will likely come away with a similar conclusion. And even just knowing Dan a little bit, I think that's probably exactly what happened.
And there's been some fascinating reporting. that basically the paranoia inside the Pentagon about leakers and about people who are trying to subvert Pete Hegseth and the Trump administration is so strong that Pete's own inner circle is turning on itself because they're paranoid about who's leaking and who's not leaking.
And so the drop site story about what happened behind the scenes here is that someone who was trying not to leak, Colin, who was trying not to leak, this came out like last week, ends up being accused of leaking when trying to avoid looking like he's leaking. And it's because Casper and probably Hegseth himself are- That's the chief of staff repeat, Joe Casper. Yeah.
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