Elisa Donovan
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
So, okay.
So thinking about someone like Joe Exotic and Joe V. Carroll, so he is this person who's very charismatic in a very unique sort of a way, but is also very controlling.
And is that a common combination with narcissism?
Yeah.
So within narcissism and that cluster of personality disorders, oftentimes we see this kind of histrionic, which is that very just
you know, as you said, just kind of this ridiculousness.
Yeah, performative and demonstrative.
Yeah, we see that a lot with certain types of narcissists, not all.
But that's common.
Yes.
Now, does that automatically align with being controlling?
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
But again, it's not uncommon to see those kind of
those things overlap.
But alone by itself doesn't mean that they're narcissistic.
And a narcissist alone by themselves won't mean they're necessarily histrionic in that respect.
Right.
So how do you know when manipulation is happening versus just a difficult personality?
Yes.