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And that's not because they've changed.

Wait, is that real?

Is that a thing?

There was a whole like New York Times, I think it was, or not New York Times, but

The New Yorker?

One of them.

There was this huge article with all these famous social media influencers, self-aware narcissists.

Now, one or two of them I follow, not because I think they've healed, but because hearing their perception of why they do what they do gives me insight as a psychologist.

Right, right.

But they haven't changed.

No, and then they're getting attention for it, which is just feeding the fire, fueling the fire.

Exactly, exactly.

The family court hearings that followed revealed glaring inconsistencies in her story.

My mind was blown.

I'm Stephanie Young.

This is Love Trap.

Laura, Scottsdale Police.

As the season continues, Laura Owens finally faces consequences.

Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news at Americopa County as Laura Owens has been indicted on fraud charges.

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