Elisabeth McKay
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when I go to do the peyote thing, they force you to be in a circle.
And then there's this like spontaneous chanting thing.
So everyone's going around spontaneous chanting.
And you guys, when I say that I hate the idea of like group sharing and chanting and all this stuff, I was like, oh my God, what have I, what have I done?
What am I doing?
And it gets around to me and I don't have anything to spontaneously chant because I'm like, what am I even doing?
and they were like, we have to say something, like, go, go, go, and I, so I start singing the ABCs, and eventually I was like, I am, I'm not a candidate for this, I can't do this, but what's really interesting is, so at this point, I've already drank, right, you're, like, drinking on multiple rounds, so I'm already on peyote at this point, but now when I have found myself singing the ACBs, the ABCs in this circle, I'm like, I need a timeout, I can't do this, I can't be around these people, because I didn't want to laugh at them, I knew that
They were having some profound experience and I just kind of was observing and just I didn't want to be disrespectful and laugh at them.
And I knew that I was right on the edge where I was like, I can't chant in a group circle right now.
So I actually removed myself from the group and I went, this was on a property where I lived.
So I went to my house and at the time my Sarai's dad, he was an incredible artist and he had painted this huge Ganesh Tonka.
So I was actually sitting in front of this Ganesh Tonka, obviously like tripping hard on peyote.
But at this point, I just wanted to be away from people.
And I actually had an incredibly profound experience that I don't have any regrets over.
It was great.
So I want to leave you with, I am certainly not ever going to say that there is absolutely nothing to gain from a psychedelic experience because I personally, I would be fraudulent.
I would be lying to deny that I myself have had personally transformative experiences with hallucinogens because that is absolutely unequivocally true.
From where I sit now as a 41-year-old woman with four kids, I think as a society we owe it to ourselves to educate people better about the risks and not only pitch it as this amazing euphoric experience that is going to change your life.
Because just as easily, it could change your life in a negative way for the rest of your life.
So my intention with this episode is to help you understand what you're potentially opening yourself up to, especially when we're talking about from a spiritual perspective, because many people think that they're meeting God and you are literally in the wrong dimension.