Elisabeth McKay

So you have to be even more careful.

I actually don't have a brain pattern type that wants to fit in.

I'm much more hyper independent when I look at stuff like that.

I'm like, absolutely.

No, thank you.

That sounds awful.

And ultimately, medicinally, that's probably why I benefited from it selectively.

So it's important that you're hearing what I'm saying and you are being honest with yourself about what is leading to the intrigue in the space of medicine journeys.

Because what you may think of as medicine may actually be far more harmful and exposing over the long run than you're even considering.

And I hope that I'm getting that point through to you right now.

Before we close, I want to share one other little story because this is interesting too.

So when I was in my early 20s, I did a peyote ceremony.

And I was laughing about this with my friend the other day because, again, I had no –

All these things were so opposite of what I ever would have done.

The idea that as a person who's naturally very claustrophobic, the day prior, because it was all part of the same thing the day prior, I did a sweat lodge ceremony.

Even though I was so claustrophobic, it was actually a very pivotal moment for myself because, again, I'm opposing patterns, right?

So day one, sweat lodge.

Nailed that.

Learned a bunch of things about myself that ultimately very much helped me when I created Break Years Later.

And then the next day is the peyote thing.