Elise Hu

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Amber Tamlin in 2020.

You can hear my full interviews and hundreds of other interviews with some of the world's most creative people on our website, designmattersmedia.com or wherever you get your podcasts.

We'll be back next week with one last special episode culled from the many years I've been doing Design Matters.

Yes, this is the 20th year we've been podcasting Design Matters, and I'd like to thank you for listening.

And remember, we can talk about making a difference, we can make a difference, or we can do both.

You're listening to TED Talks Daily, where we bring you new ideas to spark your curiosity every day.

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Like many of us, singer, actress, and mindset coach Rhonda Ross has experienced the most amazing highs and horrible lows in her life.

Over time, she's learned that regardless of what we're experiencing, we must first calm the storm inside our minds.

To do that, we have to understand it.

In this conversation with scholar and TED fellow Daniel Alexander-Jones, Rhonda shares her theory of emotional sovereignty, the idea that your feelings aren't shaped just by your circumstances, but by the thoughts running in a loop in your head.

Rhonda, who comes out of the jazz and theater traditions, introduces a unique music-rooted practice for taking control of your narrative and finding an unexpected sense of freedom.

That's coming up right after a short break.

And now our conversation of the day.

Yes, yes, yes.

It's good to see you.

Let's do it.

All right, let's do it.

That was Rhonda Ross in conversation with Daniel Alexander Jones at TED Next 2025.