Elise Hu

It came out just yesterday, April 24th.

Hopefully after this conversation, you're going to hear it in a different light and we will leave you with the full song, Things Change Even Now.

Here it is.

And Rishi Keshe, thank you so much.

That was Rishi K. Shahirway at TED Monterey in 2021.

And later in conversation with me, Elise Hu.

Our conversation was recorded in April, 2026.

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