Eliza Orlins

for folks to comply in advance, to be afraid to speak out, to be afraid to go to protests.

And I personally, you know, they will have to drag me away kicking and screaming because I'm not going to shut up.

I'm not going to stop going to protests.

I'm not going to stop speaking out.

But I also recognize the level of privilege I have both as a white woman, a U.S.

citizen, an attorney.

You know, I have a lot of things that for me, I have already decided that this is a thing that I'm going to do.

But for some folks...

you know, the fear will prevent them from reporting crimes if they are the victim of crimes.

It will prevent them from seeking medical care or, you know, health care if they are sick or need help.

It will prevent them from accessing education.

You know, we've already seen people too afraid to go to school and there being big absences.

So it chills communities in that way.

But then also, I think, you know, the...

the way that this enables the administration to like come after people and prosecute them.

And, and like, let's say, you know, this flag burning thing, of course it's still legal to burn a flag, but his order is written in such a way that it's like, okay, but even if it's legal to burn a flag, the way that they arrested the veteran who burned the flag in Lafayette park was by saying, having an open flame in a city park is,

And then they're going to say, oh, no, it was disorderly conduct.

It was obstruction of governmental administration.

You know, the amount of times I've in my career seen cops charge someone with with OGA, we call it obstruction of governmental administration.

It's like, you know, when you don't have a crime to charge someone with, you charge them with OGA disorderly conduct and then resisting arrest because they're like, what am I being arrested for?